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Re:U.S. sues Oracle, alleges salary and hiring discrimination by dsr_ on Thursday January 19, 2017 @07:13AM (#13435145)
The heaviest thing an auto mechanic typically lifts is a tire. Everything else is going to be lifted by a hoist, because no human, male or female, can pull an engine out of a car. Auto mechanic is, in fact, a skilled job involving a mental model of a very complex system, diagnosis, testing, research, and tool usage.

Modern mining is done primarily by machines which are tended to by mechanics. Ever wonder why there are so few mining jobs these days? That would be automation improving the efficiency and taking away manual jobs.

Speaking of which, truck drivers... will be obsolete soon. Even so, driving is not a task that inherently favors upper body strength.

OK, so the physical argument holds no water. What's left? Prejudice and social expectations -- which is to, say a prevalent institutional bias.

Re:U.S. sues Oracle, alleges salary and hiring discrimination by wallace_f on Thursday January 19, 2017 @08:21PM (#13441022)
You are sounding like you have never worked in a job like this. I have worked for a carpenter and an automechanic. Ever seen someone unable to even get the heat shrink wrap off a pneumatic tool and replace the lines? I saw someone unable to do it and end up gashing their hand as they were trying to cut it off. Ever work under a hot engine bay for 8 hours? Holding your hands above your head the entire time, and developing pain in your neck? Ever used an angle grinder? Should I trust you with one? Ever lifted 300lb pieces of granite, cut them to size and polish them? That's hard work. Do you think you can do it?

Besides, by focusing 100% on this physical aspect you're nearly just attack a straw man argument and ignoring the substance of everything else. Not every person is exactly the same and it doesn't matter. Get over it.

Re:U.S. sues Oracle, alleges salary and hiring discrimination by dsr_ on Friday January 20, 2017 @06:45AM (#13443116)
Seen someone screw up because they weren't trained: yup.

Work under a hot engine bay for 8 hours: no, but I've worked outdoors carrying construction material during heat waves, and I've worked indoors in cold data centers.

Holding my hands over my head until pain develops: yup. I don't recommend it to anyone.

Used an angle grinder: no. I have used lots of other power tools. Should you trust me with one? Not until I'm trained on it.

Lifted 300lb pieces of granite: no. We have these things called wheels, you might have heard of them? Using wheels and levers and ropes and pulleys, I have moved much heavier things. I recommend using appropriate tools. Hoists? Cranes? Block-and-tackle?

Re:U.S. sues Oracle, alleges salary and hiring discrimination by talmand on Thursday January 19, 2017 @10:07AM (#13436312)
I'm curious as to how you would address the industries that are heavily female with males being underrepresented. Is there institutional bias in those instances?
Re:U.S. sues Oracle, alleges salary and hiring discrimination by dsr_ on Thursday January 19, 2017 @11:41AM (#13437141)
Very likely.