Re:Earth Sets a Temperature Record for the Third Straight Year
by Robi395 on Wednesday January 18, 2017 @12:20PM
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While this guy does have a shady past, It would be better to shown why his data or logic is false/inaccurate; and not base argument against him on his résumé, if only to better educate people watching the video.
Re:Earth Sets a Temperature Record for the Third Straight Year
by epistasis on Wednesday January 18, 2017 @12:36PM
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My question is why are we even bothering with a guy with a shady past instead of starting with those more reputable people that are much less likely to be intentionally deceiving us? Why give this guy any consideration until we've exhausted learning about the ideas that have been vetted and passed muster? Why start with somebody that is a charlatan in part?
Re:Earth Sets a Temperature Record for the Third Straight Year
by Robi395 on Wednesday January 18, 2017 @12:45PM
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I completely agree with you on such matter, but I don't need any convincing. From the point of view of a guy who does not believe in climate change, saying that Dr. Murry Salby should no be trusted might actually have the opposite effect, and present this Dr. as a person fighting against all odds for the truth.
Re:Earth Sets a Temperature Record for the Third Straight Year
by Robi395 on Wednesday January 18, 2017 @12:31PM
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I quickly glanced over the post, it looks great. This kind of rebuttal is more convincing to a misinformed audience than saying, "the guy is bad".
On the other hand, the frustration from people continuously spreading scientifically wrong ideas is understandable.
Re:Earth Sets a Temperature Record for the Third Straight Year
by pdx on Wednesday January 18, 2017 @12:16PM
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Why don't you watch the lecture, hmmm?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sGZqWMEpyUM
Nobody "appealed to authority". I only gave you his name. You, however, spent 2 minutes to dig up some dirt on the internet, in a desperate attempt to discredit without actually looking at his argument.
Re:Earth Sets a Temperature Record for the Third Straight Year
by Oletros on Wednesday January 18, 2017 @12:26PM
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When a channel is almost composed of "lectures" from "scientists" in the International Conference on Climate Change[0] it says all that is is needed to know about the channel
> The International Conference on Climate Change is a conference series organized and sponsored by The Heartland Institute which aims to bring together global warming skeptics who "dispute that the science is settled on the causes, consequences, and policy implications of climate change."
[0]https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/International_Conference_on_Cl...
>In 2005, the National Science Foundation opened an investigation into Salby's federal funding arrangements and found that he had displayed "a pattern of deception [and] a lack of integrity" in his handling of federal grant money.[2] He resigned his position in Colorado in 2008 and became professor of climate risk at Macquarie University in Macquarie Park, New South Wales. In 2013 he was dismissed by the university on grounds of refusal to teach and misuse of university resources.[3]
He is unconvincing as an authority on the subject due to his ethical issues. As far as presenting an actual argument, let's see it as traditional scientific papers rather than a collection of YouTube videos, hmm?