Re:Obama Commutes Bulk of Chelsea Manning’s Sentence
by peteretep on Tuesday January 17, 2017 @07:59PM
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How has the public benefitted from any of that? It sounds like your morbid curiosity has been satisfied, but who didn't know Libya under Gaddafi was a cesspit?
> Unless you think we're better off
> not knowing about this stuff, that is.
Who didn't already know all of that in broad strokes?
Re:Obama Commutes Bulk of Chelsea Manning’s Sentence
by kafkaesq on Tuesday January 17, 2017 @08:06PM
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Who didn't already know all of that in broad strokes?
I guess that argument could be applied to high crimes and corruption of all sorts, just about anywhere: "We already know about that in broad strokes. What good does it do to air all that dirty laundry before the general public?"
Re:Obama Commutes Bulk of Chelsea Manning’s Sentence
by peteretep on Tuesday January 17, 2017 @08:13PM
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> high crimes
Which these weren't. There's about as much public benefit in knowing how exactly Gaddafi was corrupt as there is in known just how many women Tom Cruise has slept with. cf: Public Interest
Re:Obama Commutes Bulk of Chelsea Manning’s Sentence
by stale2002 on Tuesday January 17, 2017 @11:33PM
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I am sure that the people that were getting murdered by Gaddafi disagree.
Re:Obama Commutes Bulk of Chelsea Manning’s Sentence
by kafkaesq on Tuesday January 17, 2017 @08:21PM
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There's about as much public benefit in knowing how exactly Gaddafi was corrupt as there is in known just how many women Tom Cruise has slept with.
This is, quite frankly, a bizarre equivalence to make.
Here's one of my personal favorites (summarized by Reuters):
"You know the movie 'The Godfather'? We've been living it for the last few months," a businessman involved in the dispute was quoted in the cable as telling an official from the U.S. diplomatic mission in Tripoli.
The cable, which was made available to Reuters by a third party, centers on a bottling plant in Tripoli that was shut down for three months. It had been seized by troops loyal to Mutassim Gaddafi, a son of Muammar, who at the time was feuding with one of his brothers, Mohammed. (Another State Department cable suggests a third Gaddafi son, Saadi -- better known as the family's professional soccer player -- may also have been involved in the squabble, though no details of his role are given.)
Eventually, the American diplomatic mission in Tripoli, known then as the U.S. Liaison Office, sent a firm protest to the Libyan government. The document states that around the same time, Mohammed Gaddafi, possibly under pressure from his sister Aisha, a family peacemaker, apparently agreed that shares owned by the Libyan Olympic Committee, which he led, would be sold to a third party.
Shortly afterward, the cable says, Mutassim's men left the Coke plant, ending the family standoff, but not before employees of the plant received threats of bodily harm and a Gaddafi cousin was stuffed in the trunk of a car.
Really, it shouldn't be hard to satisfy your own curiosity on this topic. Unless you think we're better off not knowing about this stuff, that is.