The devil is in the details. What passes for "inciting *" is very broad, and is (in itself) the mechanism by which political censorship is applied.

I truly urge you to read up on this affaire. What he actually said really wasn't that big a deal.

I can see how your general point about political censorship could be true (I don't know enough about this to pass judgement), but I'm asking specifically about your comment on homosexuals.

Just to recontextualize this: This is a thread about the viability of startups in France. As I mentioned a bit further up, there are "no hate speech" rules all over Europe. Germany for example is far, far stricter than France about it ... and Berlin has a vibrant startup scene.

I generally agree that "inciting" is a loosely defined term and I, too, dislike how easy of a tool it can be for political censorship. But there's worlds between those details and some of the claims I'm finding in this thread.

Hmm we may have a misunderstanding. I didn't make a comment about homosexuals, specifically. My point was rather that there are, de facto, state-enforced standards for political correctness in France and that this maps directly onto a form of censorship.

Or am I still missing your point?

I see what you're saying, yeah. I don't think we disagree, I misunderstood your original post.

I wrote a bit more about this here: https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=13411875