Re:AMD Ryzen Hype
by devwastaken on Saturday January 14, 2017 @04:22PM
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>The market share associated with those use cases is between very slim and practically nonexistent.
If so, then why do extreme editions and the 6700K exist? Those are significantly slimmer in usage than dual core I7's, I5's or I3's. In reality, there are a lot of power users who work with video, code, and plenty of other tasks that demand the highest computing power. These are usually also backed by a business, so they can charge a good amount for it.
>Quite frankly, those who care for performance and are bound to a budget are also not waiting for new product releases. They are in fact paying attention to the used parts market, where nowadays it's possible to buy dozens of server processors for chump change.
That depends upon your budget. If you're working proffessionally with the things I've listed there, chances are an $800 cost is tiny compared to the returns of a productivity increase.
>As an example, nowadays it's possible to buy on ebay dozens of bulldozer-based Opteron processors for the same amount of cash that a brand new i7 processor is sold for, and whoever is interested in computational power can easily setup a 4-socket Opteron server for less than €1000.
That statement largely ignores all the aspects of proffessional machines, and single-core performance. Getting a bunch of old opterons and slapping them in a machine is not a reliable setup. Even if it was, there are plenty of things that cannot be threaded well, its just how some algorithms work. If everything was threaded, Intel could have shoved 12 cores into all their chips long ago.
If so, then why do extreme editions and the 6700K exist? Those are significantly slimmer in usage than dual core I7's, I5's or I3's. In reality, there are a lot of power users who work with video, code, and plenty of other tasks that demand the highest computing power. These are usually also backed by a business, so they can charge a good amount for it.
>Quite frankly, those who care for performance and are bound to a budget are also not waiting for new product releases. They are in fact paying attention to the used parts market, where nowadays it's possible to buy dozens of server processors for chump change.
That depends upon your budget. If you're working proffessionally with the things I've listed there, chances are an $800 cost is tiny compared to the returns of a productivity increase.
>As an example, nowadays it's possible to buy on ebay dozens of bulldozer-based Opteron processors for the same amount of cash that a brand new i7 processor is sold for, and whoever is interested in computational power can easily setup a 4-socket Opteron server for less than €1000.
That statement largely ignores all the aspects of proffessional machines, and single-core performance. Getting a bunch of old opterons and slapping them in a machine is not a reliable setup. Even if it was, there are plenty of things that cannot be threaded well, its just how some algorithms work. If everything was threaded, Intel could have shoved 12 cores into all their chips long ago.