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Re:International Entrepreneur Rule by chatmasta on Saturday January 14, 2017 @02:10PM (#13399987)
Is that a problem? Why would we not want more rich people becoming citizens and paying US taxes on their worldwide income?
Re:International Entrepreneur Rule by imagist on Saturday January 14, 2017 @02:26PM (#13400068)
Of course we would want that, but that's not what we get. The rich pay few taxes and the international rich pay even less, given they already have offshore tax havens by the nature of being from another country. Given a green card allows establishment of US companies which are exempt from some tariffs which are imposed on foreign companies, there's no reason to believe that giving the rich green cards will be a net gain for tax revenue. It is indeed sometimes a net loss.
Re:International Entrepreneur Rule by Nevermark on Saturday January 14, 2017 @02:42PM (#13400162)
The rich don't pay fewer taxes in absolute terms.

They may pay a lower percentage of taxes on wealth gains than middle class or upper middle class, due to being able to delay income realization, lower capital gains taxes, and other means that are more accessible to the rich than the middle class or the poor.

But rich people still tend to pay more taxes than less rich people.

Re:International Entrepreneur Rule by PaulRobinson on Saturday January 14, 2017 @05:18PM (#13400903)
Demonstrably not true in absolute terms in many cases, or as a percentage of income in others.

Spend 15 minutes talking to an accountant on the premise that you don't want to pay any tax. If you've got enough cash, that's not a problem, anywhere in the World.

Re:International Entrepreneur Rule by friedman23 on Saturday January 14, 2017 @02:40PM (#13400151)
> The rich pay few taxes and the international rich pay even less

The rich pay almost all tax.

Re:International Entrepreneur Rule by mysterypie on Saturday January 14, 2017 @07:13PM (#13401456)
A humorous way to express the same idea is that the non-rich are actually sponging off the rich:

"The average American household of 2.64 people receives almost $13,000 worth of federal benefits, services, and protection per annum. These people would have to have a family income of $53,700 to pay as much in taxes as they get in goodies... Only 4.8 percent of the population -- 12,228,000 people -- file income tax returns showing more than $50,000 in adjusted gross income. Ninety-five percent of Americans are on the mooch." -- P. J. O'Rourke [1]

[1] https://books.google.com/books?isbn=1555847153

Re:International Entrepreneur Rule by shagie on Saturday January 14, 2017 @04:02PM (#13400540)
The chart depicted in xkcd https://xkcd.com/980/ doesn't seem to agree with this.

http://taxfoundation.org/article/summary-latest-federal-inco... Shows the top 50% paying nearly all the taxes. That is a far cry from the rich.

Re:International Entrepreneur Rule by robotresearcher on Saturday January 14, 2017 @05:59PM (#13401117)
The data you link to shows that the top 5% income people pay 58.55% of all taxes, while the the top 50% pay 97.22%, as you indicated.

So as a simple-language summary we might all agree that the rich pay a majority of the taxes, while the richer half of the country pays nearly all the taxes.

Re:International Entrepreneur Rule by shagie on Saturday January 14, 2017 @09:26PM (#13401980)
The richer half of the country _own_ 97.5% of the wealth. ( http://www.businessinsider.com/15-charts-about-wealth-and-in... ). It is hard to not pay nearly all of the taxes in that situation.

Note that the "richer half" starts at the median income. For the US, the median income is about $52k. That isn't particularly wealthy. When the bar for "nearly all the wealth" is set at that point, it is not surprising at all.

Re:International Entrepreneur Rule by Chris2048 on Monday January 16, 2017 @10:24AM (#13410439)
Just 'wealth' take into account the value of the commons? Or just private resources?