Re:WhatsApp backdoor allows snooping on encrypted messages
by Johnny_Brahms on Friday January 13, 2017 @11:06AM
(#13391816)
All messages, sent while a person is offline. It is bad, but not nearly as bad as "all messages"
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Re:WhatsApp backdoor allows snooping on encrypted messages
by foxylion on Friday January 13, 2017 @11:53AM
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It is in fact all messages. They can simply not deliver the first message and force a resend record that mesaage. Afterwards force again a resend with the old encryption key and deliver that mesaage. No one would get a notification.
Re:WhatsApp backdoor allows snooping on encrypted messages
by morsch on Friday January 13, 2017 @12:23PM
(#13392567)
I can see how you would leave the receiver in the dark by sending them the original, deferred message, but how would asking the sender's device to resend with a different key not result in a notification?
Furthermore, as soon as the sender attempts to deliver another message to the recipient, they would get another notification (because the encryption key changed back to the real key); alternatively the attacker could continue blocking (and reading) messages to the recipient, but the lack of delivery would be noticeable.
You could escalate it into a MITM rather easily, though, by attacking both ends; but again, a key change notification should be displayed to both parties.
Assuming the closed sourced app works as advertised, obviously.
Re:WhatsApp backdoor allows snooping on encrypted messages
by foxylion on Friday January 13, 2017 @12:49PM
(#13392773)
Yes, you are right. But I think most people did not enable the security option so they wouldn't detect any interception of messages.
Re:WhatsApp backdoor allows snooping on encrypted messages
by Johnny_Brahms on Tuesday January 17, 2017 @03:48AM
(#13415975)
Well, what you are describing is a regular MITM attack. Unless you validate fingerprints, this is a risk with _all_ public key-based protocols.