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Re:San Antonio: Google Fiber on Hold by mywittyname on Thursday January 12, 2017 @04:02PM (#13386077)
It seems like a better wall might solve most objections. Something nice looking with some sound-proofing would probably go a long way.
Re:San Antonio: Google Fiber on Hold by politician on Thursday January 12, 2017 @04:18PM (#13386202)
What about just giving those households free internet?
Re:San Antonio: Google Fiber on Hold by Johnny555 on Thursday January 12, 2017 @04:26PM (#13386255)
If any of them accept a $70/month "gift" to give up their opposition, then they really were NIMBY's without any real concerns.
Re:San Antonio: Google Fiber on Hold by politician on Thursday January 12, 2017 @04:42PM (#13386378)
So what? Those substations serve thousands of people. Why are we letting busybodies ruin it for everyone? Pay them off and move on.
Re:San Antonio: Google Fiber on Hold by jonathankoren on Thursday January 12, 2017 @05:47PM (#13386877)
Or you can simply just sound proof it. You're already open to spending money. Stop trying to externalize your failures.
Re:San Antonio: Google Fiber on Hold by politician on Thursday January 12, 2017 @06:00PM (#13386951)
The NIMBY crowd doesn't care that it's loud, they care that it's there. Loud is a rationalization. It's loud, it causes bird to die, the current causes brain cancer/allergies, etc.
Re:San Antonio: Google Fiber on Hold by jonathankoren on Friday January 13, 2017 @02:18AM (#13389047)
You're speaking from biases because you're rejecting what appears to be very reasonable and plausible concerns as being prima facie absurd, without actually knowing any of the specifics in this matter.

Furthermore your proposed remedy isn't even consistent with your biases, as you propose throwing $840 per house per ad infitum will make the complaints go away, and then turn and round and effectively say that nothing would placate them.

I'm sorry, but that doesn't make any sense at all. If nothing will placate them, then any dollar spent is wasted. If concern is warranted, then spending the money to actually solve the problem would be cheaper over the long term.

Re:San Antonio: Google Fiber on Hold by politician on Friday January 13, 2017 @01:45PM (#13393408)
You have strong feelings about this topic, and I respect that. However, I've watched NIMBY arguments for a couple decades now and they are all basically the same: fear of decreasing home prices due to visible nearby infrastructure improvements justified by hard to prove allegations of harm to the community.

It's basically greed mixed with selfishness - deny the community improvement for the sake of my portfolio. So, if it's money they care about, then throw money at them. There's a break-even point, of course, where the bribe exceeds the benefit of the improvement.

You'll notice that I never suggested that improving the buildings was mutually exclusive with paying them off. Do both! Make the buildings quieter or less allergenic: try to address the complaint de jour. However, realize that you're treating a symptom, not a cause.

Re:San Antonio: Google Fiber on Hold by Joky on Friday January 13, 2017 @01:46AM (#13388939)
That's a very simplified view, if the A/C is right in front of your bedroom and you can't sleep anymore, it's not $70/month that'll make for it because you basically "can't" live here anymore. I'm all against NIMBY, but I really think it can be legit in such case to request to address sound issues.