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Re:Why are we all moving away from Apple? by Joeri on Thursday January 12, 2017 @12:34PM (#13384272)
How is the dell xps faster than the macbook pro? In what way is the windows dev experience superior to the mac dev experience?

There's plenty of actual things to blame apple for without inventing new ones. The issue with the new mbp is not performance.

Re:Why are we all moving away from Apple? by vinylkey on Thursday January 12, 2017 @12:50PM (#13384398)
> In what way is the windows dev experience superior to the mac dev experience?

To be fair, it's dead simple to install Linux if you don't like Windows.

Re:Why are we all moving away from Apple? by collyw on Friday January 13, 2017 @04:57AM (#13389679)
Its not difficult not install, but there are often a few tweaks that are needed to get everything working. Sometimes that can be quite tricky even for experienced people (I can't get both bluetooth and wireless working reliably one one machine I have, despite having tried 3 or 4 disrtos on it).
Re:Why are we all moving away from Apple? by whositis on Sunday January 15, 2017 @03:07PM (#13406080)
The Dell XPS laptop ships with Ubuntu, and all the hardware works flawlessly.
Re:Why are we all moving away from Apple? by slantyyz on Thursday January 12, 2017 @02:10PM (#13385138)
The only performance area that I can think of where Macbook Pros have trailed PC laptops in recent years is with discrete GPUs. CPU-wise, they've been pretty much the same.

Once you get into solid state disk I/O, PC laptops have some catching up to do.

Re:Why are we all moving away from Apple? by JadeNB on Thursday January 12, 2017 @12:48PM (#13384374)
> The issue with the new mbp is not performance.

Surely at least in part it is, when one of the major issues is the memory cap?

Re:Why are we all moving away from Apple? by Joeri on Thursday January 12, 2017 @02:38PM (#13385367)
The xps 13, the surface book and most other "developer-friendly" laptops don't fit more than 16 gb. I use a t460p which supports 64 gb, but I just have 16 gb in there because even for hadoop development I don't need more.

The memory cap issue is a non-issue. 99% of the people who complained wouldn't pay extra to get 32 gb.

Re:Why are we all moving away from Apple? by whositis on Sunday January 15, 2017 @03:05PM (#13406071)
I use Ubuntu. Can't comment on Windows. The Dell XPS+Ubuntu is staggeringly fast. Massive battery life, and no loud annoying fan etc.

For the same money as a mbp, you're getting more memory, faster CPU, better battery life, etc etc