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Re:Just how smart is an octopus? by chc on Monday January 09, 2017 @01:32PM (#13358531)
This seems a bit ethnocentric. Judeo-Christianity did bring some novel moral requirements, but the ones that it shares with most agnostics and atheists are not Judeo-Christian inventions. For example, Buddhists have been practicing compassion without any need for the Hebrew god for thousands of years, and Jains are some of the most extreme animal rights wonks you'll meet.
Re:Just how smart is an octopus? by virmundi on Monday January 09, 2017 @01:46PM (#13358652)
That is a valid critique of my context. I presumed a Post-Enlighment Western world view of a European atheist bent.

Unfortunately Buddhists and Jains don't get away any better. They have an underlying belief in a Universal truth. The Universe can punish (at least for Buddhists; I have trouble pinning Jains down on from a karmic perspective since I'm not terribly familiar with them).

Edit: critic -> critique