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Re:iPhone at ten: the revolution continues by zimpenfish on Monday January 09, 2017 @07:05AM (#13355726)
> There is no privacy if you can't inspect it and verify that it's upholding its promises.

But unless you're a top-end OS developer AND a top-end embedded systems designer at the same time, how are you going to analyse something as complex as the iPhone and verify that?

Re:iPhone at ten: the revolution continues by willstrafach on Monday January 09, 2017 @02:10PM (#13358875)
I have done this. iOS may be closed source, but firmwares are no longer encrypted, so you can reverse engineer anything that you are curious about.
Re:iPhone at ten: the revolution continues by zimpenfish on Tuesday January 10, 2017 @09:39AM (#13365051)
Sure, you can see the code / source / raw binary. But actually analysing and verifying every part for security or privacy concerns - bearing in mind you have to consider all the possible interactions this code can generate - and that's before you even get to the hardware interactions - is still beyond 99% of developers, never mind normal people.
Re:iPhone at ten: the revolution continues by willstrafach on Tuesday January 10, 2017 @01:20PM (#13367350)
I was speaking to "There is no privacy if you can't inspect it and verify that it's upholding its promises" actually, and I probably agree with you, as your point applies just as much to open source.