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Re:Intelligence Report on Russian Hacking by Bartweiss on Sunday January 08, 2017 @02:15PM (#13351365)
"Blackstone is owned wholly by Russian biollionaires". Source?

Actual source, though. The list of reputable news orgs is great, but I can find no sign that they ever printed this.

What I can find, is that Blackstone is publicly traded. 50.5% institutional, which for an American company with American owners is presumably not 100% Russian. And the rest? Fidelity, Morgan Stanley, and Janus are the largest holders. Not exactly "Russian billionaires".

http://www.nasdaq.com/symbol/bx/institutional-holdings

Re:Intelligence Report on Russian Hacking by nickbauman on Sunday January 08, 2017 @07:54PM (#13353188)
This shows their involvement in managing Russian sovereign wealth lately. Note: their wealth management was directly impacted by US sanctions. Motive.

http://www.nytimes.com/2016/01/23/business/dealbook/russian-...

Re:Intelligence Report on Russian Hacking by Bartweiss on Monday January 09, 2017 @10:07AM (#13356807)
True enough, and I did find that. But "managing money for" is not the same as - or even comparable to - "owned by". Blackstone manages money across East Asia, but is owned (almost?) entirely by Americans.

You can tell a story where Schwarzman's involvement with Trump and the Russian Direct Investment Fund constitutes a shady link to Sibur, a state-tied petrochem company. Those statements are all true; the rebuttal would be something like "all big companies in Russia are in some ways intermingled with the state; all companies which invest in Russia are at most two removes from Kremlin shadiness". I think that is probably also true, but it doesn't make this a non-issue for me.

Bayrock's ties are messier, certainly. They're also lower level on both ends, particularly since Trump's total involvement with them seems to be <$100 million, which makes that "$560 million in debt" claim laughable.

More importantly: Do you have any actual source for the claims in the previous post? You've pointed to some other topics, but the "owned wholly" and "$560 million in debt" claims seem completely baseless, and that source list was just the names of major publication.

Re:Intelligence Report on Russian Hacking by nickbauman on Thursday January 12, 2017 @07:06PM (#13387322)
What about this? FT went around and asked all the questions and got wildly different answers. Someone is not telling the truth.

https://www.ft.com/content/549ddfaa-5fa5-11e6-b38c-7b39cbb11...

Re:Intelligence Report on Russian Hacking by nickbauman on Thursday January 12, 2017 @07:12PM (#13387363)
The links to money laundering are fairly clear here.

https://www.ft.com/content/33285dfa-9231-11e6-8df8-d3778b55a...

Re:Intelligence Report on Russian Hacking by nickbauman on Thursday January 12, 2017 @07:14PM (#13387378)
But you're right. In the end it's impossible to tell for sure. The claim made is not fully substantiatable.
Re:Intelligence Report on Russian Hacking by nickbauman on Sunday January 08, 2017 @07:56PM (#13353199)
Bayrock has ties with Russian projects as well.

https://www.washingtonpost.com/politics/former-mafia-linked-...