I've found matrix[0] to work pretty well. Main downside is that the calls themselves are not end-to-end encrypted, but there is end-to-end encryption for the call setup. Riot[1] is available via f-droid[2]. You can host your own homeserver to prevent metadata leakage if you want, and run the TURN/STUN server to setup the calls if one of both parties are behind a NAT.
[1] http://riot.im
Re:Reasons not to use Skype (2012)
by sschueller on Saturday January 07, 2017 @06:08AM
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How about wire? https://wire.com
So I had a flick through the website, and I fail to understand how this service makes any money.
This automatically makes me suspicious that either they'll eventually start collecting data, or the service will disappear as soon as they are acquired.
Re:Reasons not to use Skype (2012)
by ycmbntrthrwaway on Saturday January 07, 2017 @05:29PM
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At least they explicitly promote with "No profiling or data gathering" with a link to https://twitter.com/wire/status/768797320792117248
Also they promote Spotify
I seem to recall that they aim for a freemium-ish model, i.e. sell extra features or charge for features designed for businesses/teams etc.
Re:Reasons not to use Skype (2012)
by ycmbntrthrwaway on Saturday January 07, 2017 @05:39PM
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Looks great, I was not aware they had open source client.
Given that they were forced to release their Axolotl (aka Signal protocol) under GPLv3+, they try to add some strange restrictions [2]:
"Additionally, if you choose to build an Open Source App, certain restrictions apply, as follows: a. You agree not to change the way the Open Source App connects and interacts with our servers ..."
As I understand I am free to ignore any additions to GPL.
[1] https://medium.com/@wireapp/axolotl-and-proteus-788519b186a7... [2] https://github.com/wireapp/wire
I read it as that only applies when you connect to their servers, and is the usage policy/Terms of Service for their servers, not a code license.
I also recommend Wire. I tried multiple alternatives for Skype and Wire was the only one which had good call quality and clients for all major platforms.
Re:Reasons not to use Skype (2012)
by em3rgent0rdr on Saturday January 07, 2017 @04:32AM
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Signal is available for desktop browser, although I don't know how well works.
I really want to replace Skype with something so I can stop using Google Play. Signal is not an option as it is only available via Google Play too.
[0] https://ring.cx/ [1] https://tox.chat/