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Re:Americans Are Putting Billions More Than Usual in Their 4... by RobertoG on Thursday January 05, 2017 @12:29PM (#13329195)
Maybe a little out of scope, but, is it not the important issue if the society we live when we retire is richer or poorer than the society today?

I mean, if we live in a society, for instance, three times richer (per capita) than today, it would be very strange that old people will have a hard time.

In the other hand, if it's a poorer society, even people with savings are probably to have a hard retirement.

Re:Americans Are Putting Billions More Than Usual in Their 4... by athenot on Thursday January 05, 2017 @01:10PM (#13329654)
It could be a problem if, using your example, society is 3 times richer but that comes from 10% being a lot richer and 90% being somewhat poorer.

Inequality, it seems, is rising over time.

Re:Americans Are Putting Billions More Than Usual in Their 4... by RobertoG on Thursday January 05, 2017 @01:25PM (#13329810)
I suppose that what surprise me is the contradiction between the optimism about the future of HN crowd and their pessimism in this issue, as if nothing could be done (in the case that you think something should be done, of course).

The inequality thing is far from unavoidable. In a democracy, at least, a society perceived as more fair for the majority should be attainable.

Re:Americans Are Putting Billions More Than Usual in Their 4... by kmicklas on Thursday January 05, 2017 @04:14PM (#13331465)
> The inequality thing is far from unavoidable. In a democracy, at least, a society perceived as more fair for the majority should be attainable.

This is a nice thought in theory, but not really true as long as campaigns themselves are funded by private capital. And any attempt to change that leads to private capital (cough Koch brothers cough) funding candidates to stop it.

I'm not super optimistic this will change without some kind of dramatic event (revolution, war, SS being defunded and lots of old people starve, etc.).

Re:Americans Are Putting Billions More Than Usual in Their 4... by hx87 on Thursday January 05, 2017 @05:56PM (#13332244)
> but not really true as long as campaigns themselves are funded by private capital

As long as funding correlates strongly with winning, or at least appears to correlate strongly with winning. If that ever goes away, legislators are going to look at lobbyists with a more skeptical eye.