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Re:Startup Puts Everything You Need for a Two-Acre Farm in a... by amorphid on Tuesday January 03, 2017 @01:31PM (#13311598)
For fun, I was looking at cheap (compared to San Francisco) land with no infrastructure in Wyoming. 1 acre of land, $10K USD. Drilling a water well that might work, $5K to $30K.
Re:Startup Puts Everything You Need for a Two-Acre Farm in a... by elcritch on Tuesday January 03, 2017 @01:44PM (#13311745)
Wyoming?! That's our backyard. Drop by our office sometime! [1] Our CEO ran a CSA for a few years here in Wyoming. Places like Wyoming have cheap land, but there are some tricks to doing farming up here.

1: https://brightagrotech.com/

Re:Startup Puts Everything You Need for a Two-Acre Farm in a... by rdudek on Tuesday January 03, 2017 @03:14PM (#13312632)
I'm in Colorado and the soil here is terrible trying to start a small garden behind my house. Even with purchased good quality dirt and fertilizer, it's still very very hard solid.
Re:Startup Puts Everything You Need for a Two-Acre Farm in a... by elcritch on Tuesday January 03, 2017 @03:43PM (#13312886)
Back in college, I took a soil science class. The professor said the Laramie valley has (used to at least) pretty good soil – fairly light and decent nutrient profile. There was a big western farm boom in the 1910's during a wet period that lasted 10-20 years. I'm not overly familiar with all the soil types in Colorado.

We have one farmer who uses some of our equipment, but he has also had good luck with soil in Fort Collins, CO [1]. He's on a hill though near a lake which might help. He said drainage was important for him.

Vertical farming is a great way to get around issues with soil quality. Especially for winter growing and also reducing the labor associated with planting, weeding, and harvesting. Seriously though, schedule a time to drop by if you're ever up in Laramie. We have a lot of knowledgeable people here who love talking growing! One of my coworkers has also done some good work on the economics or vertical farming (using our equipment mainly, as – well – that's what we know!) [2]. Much of the economics should be comparable on other vertical systems (though, probably less efficient you know ;) ).

Are you a software dev or tech person? Always fun to talk about the combo of farm and tech!

1: http://bayberryfresh.com/ 2: https://youtu.be/u-aFueGWSFU?t=6m1s

Re:Startup Puts Everything You Need for a Two-Acre Farm in a... by rdudek on Tuesday January 03, 2017 @11:47PM (#13315762)
Thank you! Indeed, I may need to take a drive up and take a peek :)
Re:Startup Puts Everything You Need for a Two-Acre Farm in a... by mmjaa on Thursday January 05, 2017 @08:57AM (#13327083)
Small-house gardening, wherever you go in the world, is all about the compost. Get your compost working, and you can grow a house garden pretty much anywhere. Seriously! Composts are the key to all successful house gardens in rugged territory. (Disclaimer: It takes a couple years to boot up a good compost that'll fix yer soils..)

http://eartheasy.com/grow_compost.html

Re:Startup Puts Everything You Need for a Two-Acre Farm in a... by planteen on Tuesday January 03, 2017 @05:27PM (#13313780)
Where do you live in Colorado? I've had good luck gardening in both Boulder and Denver.

High altitude gardening (e.g., in the mountains) is difficult, but that is more due to the short growing season than the soil.

Re:Startup Puts Everything You Need for a Two-Acre Farm in a... by rdudek on Tuesday January 03, 2017 @11:46PM (#13315755)
Thornton, it's all clay here :)
Re:Startup Puts Everything You Need for a Two-Acre Farm in a... by samirillian on Tuesday January 03, 2017 @04:01PM (#13313055)
Have you considered double-digging? Works pretty well here in New Mexico.
Re:Startup Puts Everything You Need for a Two-Acre Farm in a... by blacksmythe on Tuesday January 03, 2017 @10:36PM (#13315466)
double digging a garden:

    http://aces.nmsu.edu/ces/yard/2007/020307.html
Re:Startup Puts Everything You Need for a Two-Acre Farm in a... by pp19dd on Tuesday January 03, 2017 @05:12PM (#13313634)
For me doing that is somewhere between an escapist fantasy and a backup retirement plan. I've been looking at Idaho properties for some time now because it seemed to have favorable acreage vs price ratios.

Last year a random 40-acre hilltop plot at Indian Creek was listed for 30k and finally sold for 15k, which is amazing. Its neighboring 40-acre lot with a view of Bear Lake is currently being sold for 30k. Lots of variances in prices and terrain, including mountain tops. Or at least tall hills, whatever they officially are.

One of the weirdest incentives for me to keep looking is that certain counties in ID don't have building codes: you're on your own. That flexibility cuts both ways, but it means you could make a mud and straw house if you felt like it, without interference. Of course, cabin kits are probably safer and more practical.

Re:Startup Puts Everything You Need for a Two-Acre Farm in a... by secstate on Tuesday January 03, 2017 @09:40PM (#13315243)
I can find you some property in Maine that is closer to 2K/acre as long as you're okay being off grid. Well drilling would only be $3-5K depending on the site, and you might even get lucky and have a natural spring on the property somewhere.

We got a whole lotta land up here, and most of it is stuck in the post-lumber slump.

Re:Startup Puts Everything You Need for a Two-Acre Farm in a... by ci5er on Tuesday January 03, 2017 @08:51PM (#13315036)
The soil here (in much of the state) is fairly good, but the growing season is pathetically short. Assuming you're on the plains and get a full day of sun. (If not, it's even shorter). But, on the plains, then you've got more wind than you want to deal with.

So - why Wyoming? Why don't you go some place with milder weather that isn't a desert like Kansas or Arkansas?

Re:Startup Puts Everything You Need for a Two-Acre Farm in a... by amorphid on Wednesday January 04, 2017 @12:07PM (#13319971)
I was just poking around the Internet for the cheapest land I could find. I didn't look for a super long time. I think land below a certain price doesn't stand out because there's little incentive to promote it, so you have to hunt for better prices.
Re:Startup Puts Everything You Need for a Two-Acre Farm in a... by gregimba on Tuesday January 03, 2017 @07:21PM (#13314575)
You can go way cheaper than 10k per acre