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Re:Technical report on DNC hack [pdf] by lern_too_spel on Thursday December 29, 2016 @07:45PM (#13281603)
Your "summary" leaves out the key points. The SeaDaddy, X-Agent, and X-Tunnel tools used in these attacks have only been used by two groups, using the same control servers each time, on European, American, and World Anti-Doping Agency targets that the Russians had strong motive to attack, with some of the attacks being attributed to Russia by multiple other means.

If it turned out that Russia was not behind these attacks, the scale of the bad publicity for Crowdstrike, Fidelis, Palo Alto Networks, etc. would nearly put them out of business. Unlike you, they have skin in the game and don't make these claims lightly.

Re:Technical report on DNC hack [pdf] by elif on Thursday December 29, 2016 @09:25PM (#13282052)
The problem with relying upon motive and established MO exclusively is that anyone is therefore capable of framing whomever they like.

This is the next generation of warfare, attribution is simply impossible. Even if there existed actual forensic evidence it could not be relied upon.

Reacting to purported attacks at face value will leave you like a 1-layer chess player, potentially acting on behalf of your adversary.

Re:Technical report on DNC hack [pdf] by lern_too_spel on Friday December 30, 2016 @12:36AM (#13282749)
As I said above, the attribution does not rely solely on motive. All private security firms that analyzed the attack have attributed it to Russia, and they would not stake their reputations on such a flimsy argument.
Re:Technical report on DNC hack [pdf] by unclepresent on Friday December 30, 2016 @11:21AM (#13285109)
all private security firms ? name one, please
Re:Technical report on DNC hack [pdf] by lern_too_spel on Friday December 30, 2016 @11:57AM (#13285374)
I named three in my first comment above. There are also Mandiant (FireEye) and SecureWorks. Previous attacks with the same malware were attributed to Russia by Threatconnect and Microsoft, who calls the "Fancy Bear" group "Strontium."
Re:Technical report on DNC hack [pdf] by stefantalpalaru on Saturday December 31, 2016 @03:46AM (#13290205)
> X-Tunnel

That one is more likely to be used by the Chinese: https://www.invincea.com/2016/07/tunnel-of-gov-dnc-hack-and-...

Re:Technical report on DNC hack [pdf] by lern_too_spel on Monday January 09, 2017 @11:23AM (#13357457)
That document is yet another example of laughably poor security analysis.

The Chinese implementation of the XTunnel protocol is in Java (the GitHub project is written in Java, and you can see an embedded JRE in your blog post's link to the Chinese tool in the strings here: https://cynomix.invincea.com/sample/e2101519714f8a4056a9de18...). The FancyBear implementation is not (no embedded JRE here: https://cynomix.invincea.com/sample/f09780ba9eb7f7426f93126b...).

If you want to see how professionals do it, take a look at https://www.eset.com/int/about/newsroom/research/dissection-....