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Re:Live display of CO2 emitted to produce electricity in Eur... by notsoeasy on Wednesday December 28, 2016 @08:52AM (#13270424)
> nuclear is very expensive

If you disagree, and have an argument, why are you not providing it?

> nuclear has a waste and risk problem

Yes, and?

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/High-level_radioactive_waste_m...

> Thus, Alfvén identified two fundamental prerequisites for effective management of high-level radioactive waste: (1) stable geological formations, and (2) stable human institutions over hundreds of thousands of years. As Alfvén suggests, no known human civilization has ever endured for so long, and no geologic formation of adequate size for a permanent radioactive waste repository has yet been discovered that has been stable for so long a period.

In other words, we have no, zero, ZILCH real solutions, and just hand-wave it away. Future generations might come up with something. They may not. But hey, let's not be a "scaremonger", let's not be like great minds of the 20th century who paid attention. Let's be shitty consumers with the attention span of a goldfish. Fuck that so much.

> wind and solar are price competitive and very environment friendly

And don't forget they're not using up resources we have a a.) limited supply of and b.) could use for more interesting things than burning them, but instead using energy that the sun pelts us with anyway. That's kind of a fundamental difference. It's the elephant on the couch, I'd say.

Re:Live display of CO2 emitted to produce electricity in Eur... by logicallee on Wednesday December 28, 2016 @02:13PM (#13272815)
it's so bizarre that you think _ph_ disagrees with these arguments. their parent comment likes nuclear but says it unfortunately always loses in HN discussions, and_ph_ summarizes why it loses.

I clicked your HN profile which says " Defend yourself. Your mindless, entitled pouting makes me aggressive. As it should."

HN is a place to be civil. it's in the rules. That's why it's better than other places. Please, improve your attitude here and don't have that profile text. If you do, you'll (rightly) be shadow banned for those toxic "contributions" and then you won't derail threads with gratuitous negativity.

Rather than lash out against someone who you completely agree with, you could have just written your comment to read "To elaborate on these points..." and then given your helpful information.

then you would have been upvoted. In the future please be more constructive :). and welcome to HN.

Re:Live display of CO2 emitted to produce electricity in Eur... by Maakuth on Wednesday December 28, 2016 @09:07AM (#13270507)
It doesn't solve the problem globally, but in Finland, there's been a decision of the method and location of the final disposal of the waste. Once the disposal is finished 50 years after end of waste production, the repository will be sealed in a way that makes the waste inaccessible.

Posiva is the company, owned by the NPP operators, trusted with the task: http://posiva.fi/en/final_disposal

Re:Live display of CO2 emitted to produce electricity in Eur... by notsoeasy on Wednesday December 28, 2016 @09:05AM (#13270495)
Compared to the blood on the hands of people who don't seriously think about what they defend, I'll take offending people by asking them for arguments. You can prove you have a mind beyond a goldfish. If you just downvote and say nothing, I'll stick with "called it", kthxbai.