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Re:An American airline wins the right to weigh passengers on... by kelnos on Wednesday December 28, 2016 @03:01AM (#13269133)
> Now in regards to airlines charging them a different price due to weight and fuel consumption, that gets into a very grey area of how we deal with the reasoning behind obesity, choice, human rights and market costs.

Right, and it's also a problem when you consider height and weight to be intertwined. Even among people of a healthy weight, a 5' tall person is going to weigh less than a 6' tall person, on average. If you really wanted to allow for pricing based on the idea that extra weight requires extra fuel consumption, but not for ascribed traits, one would have to normalize weight based on height, or instead by BMI or something that really defines the weight as "extra" and not normal for a person of a particular stature. (Unless you really do want to charge based on ascribed traits.)

Also, thank you for the "ascribed vs. achieved" nomenclature. I'd never heard that before, and I like how it avoids sounding negative and boils down the distinction very clearly.

Re:An American airline wins the right to weigh passengers on... by gragas on Wednesday December 28, 2016 @03:10AM (#13269162)
This has nothing to do with BMI. The problem is exactly the same regardless of the BMI of any of the passengers.

It ONLY is about properly distributing weight. It's not a fat tax. It's not "oh, this person is heavy compared to their height, let's charge them more because they're inferior!".

It's only "we need more weight in the front".

Re:An American airline wins the right to weigh passengers on... by snoman on Wednesday December 28, 2016 @04:05AM (#13269390)
> It ONLY is about properly distributing weight. It's not a fat tax.

Bogus. At best, "... yet."

Entire sports teams of children board planes filled with adults, without redistribution. They need to weigh every passenger now, just in case they might need to move that 1 larger person? If you buy that then I've got some oil you'd be interested in.

As far as I can tell, 1 commercial plane in history has had an accident due to balance and only because of tragically bad maintenance at the same time.

This looks like one of the more obvious cases of groundwork being laid for future fees veiled in safety concerns.

The bottom line for me personally is that it's just one more bullshit thing to endure when traveling via plane, and I'm biased against them at this point. Airlines are the skeeziest companies in their attempts to capture market surplus.

Re:An American airline wins the right to weigh passengers on... by lb1lf on Wednesday December 28, 2016 @04:28AM (#13269471)
On smaller aircraft, this is standard operating procedure.

The Norwegian regional carrier Widerøe (Whose slogan might well have been "We proudly fly where everyone else is scared s--tless to!", operating a fleet of small to mid-size aircraft always play a game of musical chairs in their smaller (<40pax or so) planes prior to takeoff.

Edit: Ninja'd by gragas.

Re:An American airline wins the right to weigh passengers on... by gragas on Wednesday December 28, 2016 @04:14AM (#13269418)
If you live in a smaller city, you'd know that this happens all the time. Nearly half the time when I fly on a tiny CRJ to and from my local airport, after everyone boards, the pilot will ask if three or four people could shift around (for weight reasons) before takeoff.
Re:An American airline wins the right to weigh passengers on... by kelnos on Wednesday December 28, 2016 @03:28AM (#13269251)
I'm talking about a hypothetical where an airline might weigh people so they can charge differently based on passenger weight (to account for differences in fuel consumption), not just in order to reassign seats to balance weight distribution. Which is what this particular subthread happens to be talking about.
Re:An American airline wins the right to weigh passengers on... by mynameisvlad on Wednesday December 28, 2016 @04:00AM (#13269371)
Not a hypothetical at all; the article mentions Samoa Air does charge based on weight.