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Re:Maslow's Hierarchy of Site Reliability Engineering Needs ... by moises_silva on Tuesday December 27, 2016 @09:50PM (#13268047)
I like it. What do you see terrible with it? why, and what would be in your opinion a better role name?
Re:Maslow's Hierarchy of Site Reliability Engineering Needs ... by stonogo on Tuesday December 27, 2016 @11:56PM (#13268492)
The presence of a "reliability engineer" raises the question of what the hell all the other engineers are there for.
Re:Maslow's Hierarchy of Site Reliability Engineering Needs ... by cakeface on Wednesday December 28, 2016 @07:21AM (#13270043)
They are there to build features. Hopefully those features are something that solves business problems and ultimately drives revenue. Reliability is a requirement for a useful business system but is not a useful thing on its own. Your system needs to solve actual problems with software features to be useful. That is what the rest of the developers are rightly focused on.
Re:Maslow's Hierarchy of Site Reliability Engineering Needs ... by nikolay on Tuesday December 27, 2016 @10:09PM (#13268149)
"Operations Engineer", for example.
Re:Maslow's Hierarchy of Site Reliability Engineering Needs ... by closeparen on Tuesday December 27, 2016 @11:17PM (#13268388)
The term SRE espouses a philosophy that when SRE has done its job perfectly, there is no operations work because the system is reliable on its own.

If you're looking for members of that school of thought, you say SRE. If you're comfortable having a "boiler room" and just need to staff it up, the terms sysadmin and devops work just fine depending on the level of coding involved.

Re:Maslow's Hierarchy of Site Reliability Engineering Needs ... by nikolay on Tuesday December 27, 2016 @11:36PM (#13268437)
I dig a little bit before commenting (SRE vs DevOps), but SRE as an abbreviation is ugly and reliability is assumed for every subject or role, so, it's redundant.
Re:Maslow's Hierarchy of Site Reliability Engineering Needs ... by closeparen on Wednesday December 28, 2016 @03:25PM (#13273331)
SRE is about engineering systems to be reliable, which is certainly not a goal taken seriously by default. In a traditional environment the system itself is not reliable and not trying (very hard) to be; rather, the combination of system + pager-carrying operators is reliable.

Many more people are paging operators to do DB replica promotions by hand, than are inplementing distributed consensus algorithms and self-healing distributed databases.

Re:Maslow's Hierarchy of Site Reliability Engineering Needs ... by moises_silva on Tuesday December 27, 2016 @11:24PM (#13268403)
I'd say that's quite more vague and doesn't quite sound like what an SRE is. You didn't answer my other questions btw.
Re:Maslow's Hierarchy of Site Reliability Engineering Needs ... by nikolay on Tuesday December 27, 2016 @11:34PM (#13268433)
Sorry, I meant "Site Operations Engineer". "Reliability" is an adjective assumed to every subject or role.