How to find size of an array in C without sizeof

Re:How to find size of an array in C without sizeof by kbart on Tuesday December 27, 2016 @02:00AM (#13261710)

Read "undefined behavior" as "depending on architecture and compiler". It's not like anything can happen, but it's simply not to describe every architecture and every compiler into a standard. Sure, somebody is free to write an implementation where a nuke is launched every time "undefined behavior" is encountered, and they would be right according to C standard, but in real world, you pretty much know what to expect on a given system.

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Re:How to find size of an array in C without sizeof by DougBTX on Tuesday December 27, 2016 @02:22AM (#13261773)

> "depending on architecture and compiler".

The standard also has the idea of "implementation defined" behaviour, which is close to the definition above. "Undefined behaviour" is a trickier beast, since compilers can rightly assume undefined behaviour never occurs, and optimise accordingly.

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Re:How to find size of an array in C without sizeof by noselasd on Tuesday December 27, 2016 @04:14AM (#13262137)

Not at all - that would be implementation defined behavior.

These days, compilers quite often speculate on undefined behavior, generating code as if the undefined part cannot happen - the result is that your code is going to do stuff you pretty much can not know or expect.

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Re:How to find size of an array in C without sizeof by Asooka on Tuesday December 27, 2016 @02:12AM (#13261731)

I would really love if undefined behaviour meant defined by architecture, but current compiler writers are firmly in the launch nukes camp.

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