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Re:Raspberry Pi releases an OS to breathe new life into old PCs by olegkikin on Monday December 26, 2016 @12:42PM (#13259022)
SSDs are what breathe new life into old PCs. And they are quite cheap. My wife's laptop turned from extremely annoying to decent, almost pleasant to use.
Re:Raspberry Pi releases an OS to breathe new life into old PCs by Brakenshire on Monday December 26, 2016 @01:54PM (#13259297)
Think that's a different class of old PC. They're talking about computers with 512MB of RAM, you're getting up towards 4GB before spending money on an SSD is going to be a sensible I'd say.
Re:Raspberry Pi releases an OS to breathe new life into old PCs by keithpeter on Monday December 26, 2016 @06:47PM (#13260387)
OA uses a Thinkpad X40 as the target machine. A 1.8 inch Hitachi drive with PATA interface and with 256 or 512Mb of RAM soldered to board with a socket for one further RAM stick. This is a 12 year old design. Probably best used with what it has rather than spending any money upgrading. A good test target for a 'light' OS.

A Thinkpad X60 or later (dual core) with 2Gb RAM can run a 'full fat' Linux (e.g. Ubuntu or CentOS/Fedora) OK if not slick in my experience (and yes I did once compile a kernel from source on an X61s - took a few hours). An SSD makes a difference in that kind of machine.

Re:Raspberry Pi releases an OS to breathe new life into old PCs by IgorPartola on Monday December 26, 2016 @10:39PM (#13261144)
Your comment about the kenrel taking a few hours to compile made me chuckle. I went through a Gentoo phase. Nothing like compiling your compiler to compile your compiler to compile your system. Took days.

And before that I had a machine with 24 MB RAM and a terrible habit of recompiling the kernel or running BSD with ports.

Re:Raspberry Pi releases an OS to breathe new life into old PCs by digler999 on Monday December 26, 2016 @11:56PM (#13261356)
> Took days.

at least yours finished. Mine would run just long enough to waste most of my day, only to error out because one lib wanted python-3.2.785.2.r58 but could only find python-3.2.1435.214.r3

Re:Raspberry Pi releases an OS to breathe new life into old PCs by khedoros1 on Tuesday December 27, 2016 @01:20AM (#13261620)
I was using Slackware around the time that distros were switching from xfree86 to x.org. Not knowing any better, I was trying to run it as a bleeding edge system. I think I took a week or two manually upgrading each library one at a time to make the jump to the new X server.

Apparently I didn't learn my lesson; the next distro I used was Gentoo.

Re:Raspberry Pi releases an OS to breathe new life into old PCs by AstroJetson on Monday December 26, 2016 @10:02PM (#13261020)
X60 and X61 owner here. SSD drive brought new life to the machines. The new pixel desktop makes them fun linux boxes.
Re:Raspberry Pi releases an OS to breathe new life into old PCs by keithpeter on Tuesday December 27, 2016 @06:35AM (#13262594)
Excellent!

An SSD and stock Gnome 3 Debian in my X61s (2Gb RAM) with its Atheros wifi card goes very well, so I'm hardly surprised that your machines work well with a less demanding desktop environment and it is good that you find them of use.

Care to share the output of pstree -l -A from a fresh session? That would tell us what processes are running by default (cups&c).

Re:Raspberry Pi releases an OS to breathe new life into old PCs by FreeFull on Monday December 26, 2016 @01:55PM (#13259299)
SSDs and extra RAM are the two best upgrades to improve how fast and responsive everything feels.
Re:Raspberry Pi releases an OS to breathe new life into old PCs by Klathmon on Monday December 26, 2016 @03:30PM (#13259633)
I've found that an SSD is significantly better for most "store bought" computers/laptops.

They advertise "gigahertz", RAM, drive space, and sometimes screen size.

So everything else is left to the cheapest possible part. Updating the 5400 RPM HDD to an SSD has completely changed every single laptop a family member has brought me as "too slow to use".

I've also found it's damn near impossible to buy a cheap laptop with an SSD.

Re:Raspberry Pi releases an OS to breathe new life into old PCs by squarefoot on Tuesday December 27, 2016 @06:00AM (#13262484)
I would put extra RAM first, then the SSD, just to prevent the OS from abusing the SSD for swapping.
Re:Raspberry Pi releases an OS to breathe new life into old PCs by Klinky on Monday December 26, 2016 @03:34PM (#13259647)
This should definitely be investigated before investing time getting an alternative OS up and running, along with the troubleshooting and training that comes with it.

Upgrade to the latest CPU for the platform. For $25 you could gain an extra 1+ Ghz or more cores.

Max out ram, for DDR2 systems this is usually 4GB - 8GB. 2GB sticks can easily be had for under $10 a stick.

Replace hard drive with SSD. Especially if it's a low RPM hard drive. 128GB SSDs can be had for $35 on sale.

The above upgrades will easily boost performance whatever OS is already running on the hardware, and total time to install should be 1 - 2 hours.

Re:Raspberry Pi releases an OS to breathe new life into old PCs by jlgaddis on Monday December 26, 2016 @04:48PM (#13259938)
There are a lot of very respectable laptops available (off-lease and such) for relatively cheap.

I picked up a ThinkPad T420 a few months ago on eBay for, IIRC, $180. For $250 all in, I had a nice i5 laptop w/ 16 GB of RAM and a 120 GB SSD. I didn't need it and don't really use it for anything but it's great when I need a spare or somebody else wants to use it. It could easily serve as a great primary machine for an average user (i.e. e-mail and Facebook / web browsing), though.

Re:Raspberry Pi releases an OS to breathe new life into old PCs by perryh2 on Monday December 26, 2016 @08:26PM (#13260709)
I bought a T420 from Ebay as well for around $180. Everything works well but the screen on my sucked. Did you replace yours?
Re:Raspberry Pi releases an OS to breathe new life into old PCs by jlgaddis on Monday December 26, 2016 @09:10PM (#13260850)
Nope, it was in great condition.
Re:Raspberry Pi releases an OS to breathe new life into old PCs by yuhong on Monday December 26, 2016 @04:20PM (#13259817)
The SSD as a boot drive will require an OS reinstall anyway though.
Re:Raspberry Pi releases an OS to breathe new life into old PCs by anonbanker on Monday December 26, 2016 @05:07PM (#13260036)
dd if=/dev/originaldevice of=/dev/newdevice

Unless the system is too old to contain new drivers, or you're switching from x86 to arm, you shouldn't have a problem. I've done this multiple times, including a gradual upgrade from Ubuntu 8.04 to 16.04.

Re:Raspberry Pi releases an OS to breathe new life into old PCs by copperx on Monday December 26, 2016 @04:44PM (#13259915)
Not really. I usually just image the boot drive.
Re:Raspberry Pi releases an OS to breathe new life into old PCs by pjc50 on Monday December 26, 2016 @03:29PM (#13259625)
And, especially for laptops, check the thermal management: clean the fans and vents, and if necessary redo the thermal paste.
Re:Raspberry Pi releases an OS to breathe new life into old PCs by Pxtl on Monday December 26, 2016 @09:45PM (#13260952)
If only they were built to make this a user friendly operation.

https://youtu.be/OpCJzdWxEbQ

Re:Raspberry Pi releases an OS to breathe new life into old PCs by bobajeff on Monday December 26, 2016 @04:04PM (#13259765)
That takes care of performance but not security.
Re:Raspberry Pi releases an OS to breathe new life into old PCs by illys on Monday December 26, 2016 @05:40PM (#13260160)
I am actually more worried about security with modern Intel processors than with old ones. Intel Management Engine makes me very uncomfortable in trusting my machine.
Re:Raspberry Pi releases an OS to breathe new life into old PCs by hh2222 on Monday December 26, 2016 @02:36PM (#13259453)
For sure, but Pixel is free.