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Re:'All I wanted to do is build a house' (2010) by EdHominem on Sunday December 25, 2016 @07:27PM (#13256219)
... disclosed as self-driving car accidents.

They're pursuing self-driving tech in a shifty way - paying a driver to perform backup (in a way that Google has shown can't be done) and otherwise letting an unfinished AI have full-control of the vehicle at road speeds. When the cars make a mistake (run a red) they blame the driver so they can claim a flawless self-driving record.

If they said they were self-driving, and got the permit, they'd be required to log activations so we'd know who was supposed to be in control at the time.

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Re:'All I wanted to do is build a house' (2010) by stale2002 on Sunday December 25, 2016 @08:02PM (#13256324)
They aren't self driving though.

The law is clear.

If you have a human at the wheel, it is lane assist, and automated cruise control.

If you don't like it, then change the law.

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Re:'All I wanted to do is build a house' (2010) by EdHominem on Monday December 26, 2016 @04:42AM (#13257650)
Right, that's not self-driving at all, but they claim that it is. Shifty.

The problem is that they've put drivers in the car as backup; they're not supposed to drive or it ruins the experiment. So they won't be ready to take over when needed. One already missed their cue and the car ran a red light...

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Re:'All I wanted to do is build a house' (2010) by angersock on Sunday December 25, 2016 @08:51PM (#13256458)
Jesus fuck stop shilling for Uber. They don't need your help.
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Re:'All I wanted to do is build a house' (2010) by stale2002 on Sunday December 25, 2016 @08:53PM (#13256467)
I want my lane assist and automatic cruise control cars now, please.

And I am sick of people who don't understand the law trying to stop this perfectly legal technology from entering the market.

Read the law, and get educated please.

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Re:'All I wanted to do is build a house' (2010) by enraged_camel on Monday December 26, 2016 @12:48AM (#13257149)
If that's the law, why did Tesla and every other company actually applied for and got the permit? Are you suggesting that you know better than their teams of lawyers?
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Re:'All I wanted to do is build a house' (2010) by stale2002 on Monday December 26, 2016 @01:34AM (#13257251)
You are misinformed. Tesla does not have a permit for every single "self driving" car they have on the road.

There are 10s of thousands of self driving Teslas on the road right now, in the hands of customers. You can buy one! You don't have to get a permit for them.

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Re:'All I wanted to do is build a house' (2010) by enraged_camel on Monday December 26, 2016 @05:21AM (#13257747)
California Vehicle Code 38750 covers the testing of autonomous vehicles by the manufacturer. It does not cover the usage of those vehicles by customers.

http://codes.findlaw.com/ca/vehicle-code/veh-sect-38750.html

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