Re:The Disadvantages of an Elite Education (2008)
by argonaut on Friday December 23, 2016 @06:58AM
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I went to Berkeley for CS and knew people that went to MIT and Stanford, and I don't agree. You're right the curriculum is the same. Everything else is different. Just one example: lots of undergrads do research. They get to work (albeit basically as trainees) in some of the top CS labs in the world.
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Re:The Disadvantages of an Elite Education (2008)
by jghn on Friday December 23, 2016 @08:02AM
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I've long espoused what jondubois says above and many people have told me what you say here in response. That might be true but now that I'm in a position to see lots of new hires it doesn't seem to make a difference, at least not for CS grads. We hire a bunch of MIT grads and they seem to have roughly the same distribution of success as all of the other new hires. I'll grant you that this is anecdata but it is the one situation where I have a lot of experience where the connection angle does not exist.
Re:The Disadvantages of an Elite Education (2008)
by Buge on Friday December 23, 2016 @01:17PM
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It might depend on what you are hiring them for. If it's for research the elites might do better. But if it's for software engineering there might not be a difference.
Re:The Disadvantages of an Elite Education (2008)
by jghn on Friday December 23, 2016 @02:30PM
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That's possible, I can only speak to standard SWE type roles, and in those situations the inter-person variance is larger than the inter-institution variance.
Re:The Disadvantages of an Elite Education (2008)
by argonaut on Saturday December 24, 2016 @08:04PM
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Many of the top students at Berkeley, Stanford, MIT don't get standard SWE roles. They go to quant finance and make 300k straight out of undergrad. They go to PhD programs. They start a startup with YC. They do Google APM or something similar. They work as analysts in a VC firm.
Re:The Disadvantages of an Elite Education (2008)
by aswanson on Friday December 23, 2016 @11:01AM
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I think you learn more from your peer group than classes in college, so it's a good idea got try to get surrounded with the most talented cohort possible.
Re:The Disadvantages of an Elite Education (2008)
by argonaut on Monday December 26, 2016 @04:34AM
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Exactly. After going to Berkeley, there are 10+ people at top tech companies who think I'm smart and would be more than happy to refer me if I needed a job.
Re:The Disadvantages of an Elite Education (2008)
by aswanson on Wednesday December 28, 2016 @09:04PM
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Nice. If I had any sense in my high school years I'd have a Berkeley or Stanford pedigree. Eh, youth is wasted on the young...
Re:The Disadvantages of an Elite Education (2008)
by jackpirate on Friday December 23, 2016 @01:03PM
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Umm... Berkeley also has some of the top CS labs in the world...