We detached this ideological rant from https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=13241948 and marked it off-topic.

All: please don't post like this. It poisons the environment and kills thoughtful discussion.

In regards to paying taxes and social welfare resources, they actually contribute quite a bit:

http://www.politifact.com/punditfact/statements/2016/oct/02/...

And in a perverse turn of events, they probably help some social welfare programs (ie Social Security) because they can never receive those benefits.

"Donald Trump may not have paid federal income taxes for 20 years, but the undocumented immigrants he rails against certainly have, according to the head of a Latino civic engagement organization."

This is the FIRST SENTENCE of the article. Sorry, but if the first sentence is bashing someone who follows the tax laws because of a political reason, I am not going to be able to say that is a credible source. The article has a strong political bias for illegal immigrants.

If the SECOND SENTENCE of a comment is a factually false statement, I'll still honor the effort and respond with more accurate (even if imperfect) information ;)

US citizens don't have access to free college and healthcare but somehow illegal immigrants do?

It's not frustrating at all. Source: I am a legal immigrant.

Did you see what dang said to you here? https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=13191305

I flagged this comment, and your "black people are criminals" comment, because of the tedious race baiting.

https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=13242008

I never submit political stories (unlike the people I reply to) and do comment on technical topics and provide insight when I have expertise in the area, such as the recent discussion on linux malware. Next!

I didn't say "black people are criminals" at all. I merely said the OP's comments logically did not make sense and provided two counterpoints where their idea did not hold water. Give me a break, you're the racist, seeing "race baiting" where there is none.

Maybe the discrepancy could be explained by lead paint, solar flares, or something else, which is why I didn't propose any causes! Especially not "black people are criminals" QUOTED. I never said that at all. YOU subconsciously created the idea that black people are criminals and tried to project that onto my simple comment. Get a brain!!

It's true that you didn't say "black people are criminals" (and DanBC shouldn't have used quotation marks to make it look like you did) and also that you sometimes comment on non-political topics.

Unfortunately, it's still also true that you're posting a lot of angry ideological rants to this site. That's an abuse of HN, which is meant to be for thoughtful discussion, not political battle. So please stop.

You've also been uncivil, including several times in the current thread. We ban accounts that do that. Please don't do that any more.

The angel-immigrant stigma is just as biased as the evil-immigrant stigma. You make great and valid points, but you're going to downvoted to death. I however gave you an upvote. Merry Christmas.

I upvoted you because I believe it was a well put opinion. But I have some doubts (I dont live in the US). Do illegal immigrants are allowed to free college and free medical expenses? I would imagine any kind of formal register required to use these services would lead them to be arrested and deported.