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Re:How Social Isolation Is Killing Us by wott on Thursday December 22, 2016 @07:22PM (#13241744)
> I must be going to the wrong bars.

Very likely. There are bars where people go to be alone; bars were people go in a group to stay purely within their group; bars where people go to meet between regulars and are closed to newcomers; bars where people are opened to anyone, regulars or 5-minute newcomer; etc.

The most classy, and also often the most hyped ones are the coldest ones. The most popular are often the warmest... providing that you manage to get into the 'family' circle if it is a matter of regulars/locals; or that you belong to the same scene if it is a subculture oriented place.

And it also depends also on you. And not necessarily as you expect. I am amongst the most introverted, shy, less talkative persons ever, and yet bartenders and regulars generally great me by calling my name on my 2nd or 3rd visit in a bar while some mates who've been coming to the same place dozens of times in are given the cold shoulder (I have plenty of examples like this, it was quite funny sometimes to see how upset by the situation my mate was :-).

Re:How Social Isolation Is Killing Us by Frondo on Thursday December 22, 2016 @10:17PM (#13242549)
I would also add, if getting-to-know-you conversation is difficult for you, memorize a list of about 10 basic questions (do you have any siblings, did you grow up here, what's something you really enjoyed about the last year, etc). Ask people these and be ready to share your answers, and it'll become pretty clear when someone wants to be your friend.

I too have made friends with strangers I've met in bars, as well as with servers and bartenders at places I've been a regular.

Re:How Social Isolation Is Killing Us by skybrian on Thursday December 22, 2016 @09:36PM (#13242368)
How would you explain your good luck? Do you think it will work for other people?
Re:How Social Isolation Is Killing Us by karmelapple on Friday December 23, 2016 @03:51AM (#13243744)
I don't know the parent commenter, but I am confident he or she would not characterize that as luck.

Here's a book that can help you stop thinking it has anything to do with luck:

How to Talk to Anyone: 92 Little Tricks for Big Success in Relationships [1]

[1] https://amazon.com/How-Talk-Anyone-Success-Relationships/dp/...

Re:How Social Isolation Is Killing Us by woogiewonka on Friday December 23, 2016 @02:09AM (#13243372)
This makes me sad because I don't go to bars. Not sure what to do when I don't drink. Shy as fuck too, sucks.
Re:How Social Isolation Is Killing Us by ktRolster on Friday December 23, 2016 @03:07AM (#13243581)
Re:How Social Isolation Is Killing Us by kbart on Friday December 23, 2016 @07:12AM (#13244369)
You don't have to drink alcohol at bar. I have plenty of friends who don't consume alcohol, but have no problems going out and order non-alcoholic cocktail, juice, tea etc. Sure, it depends on a place a lot -- there are places where people go to chat and meet new people and there are places where people go to drink until passing out, so find the one that suits you..
Re:How Social Isolation Is Killing Us by cmdrfred on Friday December 23, 2016 @07:35AM (#13244437)
I don't often drink, maybe twice a year and I've been given the advice you just gave the previous poster. The truth is drunk people are insufferable while sober I don't recommend anyone do this.
Re:How Social Isolation Is Killing Us by kbart on Friday December 23, 2016 @07:55AM (#13244487)
Well, as I said, it depends on a place. I usually go to places where people are going to play board games, pool, foosball etc. while getting few beers, not drink themselves unconsciously.
Re:How Social Isolation Is Killing Us by cmdrfred on Friday December 23, 2016 @08:12AM (#13244533)
To each their own of course, but I find even mildly impaired people annoying. You don't realize how much an effect a few beers can have alcohol is deceptive that way, that's why you see people down a bottle of vodka and get behind the wheel. They honestly believe that they are fine to drive.

A tip if you do decide to try this advice, don't let anyone know you aren't drinking. Not only will you often get accosted "Come on buddy just one!", but at the end of the night you will often be pressured to become some sort of unpaid Uber.

Re:How Social Isolation Is Killing Us by nommm-nommm on Friday December 23, 2016 @05:33PM (#13247557)
I actually usually don't mind being a DD, only because keeping drunk drivers off the road is a net benefit to society. I usually don't have to go much out of my way either as nobody lives very far away. Of course, if I were expected to do this all the time I'd be annoyed.

For sure some people are extremely obnoxious when they drink, especially heavily, myself included (which is a reason I don't like getting drunk - I try to stay mildly buzzed if I do drink, but usually I don't at socal gatherings, unless they are major social gatherings, and I even usually only drink water at bars) but the vast majority of people are fine after a couple brews. Most people stop getting blasted at around 25 or so anyways.

Your attitude indicates to me that if your perception of someone changes when they've had a beer, just because they've had a beer, rather than their actual behavior. I don't mean to be rude when I say that - I can understand. I used to not be able to stand being around people when they were drinking. I avoided anywhere where I thought there may be alcohol... but that was because I grew up with an abusive alcoholic father and I was projecting my hatred of my father onto other people. It wasn't until years later I learned to be comfortable around social drinking. I learned to realize that my father did the things he did because he is a bad person, not because alcohol somehow forced him to.

As I said in another post, I actually ended up meeting the person I ended up marrying in a bar!

(I also did start drinking myself later on.)

To be clear I don't want to put you down or anything, just sharing my perspective.

Re:How Social Isolation Is Killing Us by tdfx on Friday December 23, 2016 @11:04AM (#13245368)
Club soda with a lime in a regular drink glass instead of a water cup. Everyone will assume it's a vodka club.
Re:How Social Isolation Is Killing Us by xapata on Saturday December 24, 2016 @03:30AM (#13249101)
Three pints is already drunk, not mildly impaired or "buzzed" (for the average human). Even two pints in an hour and most humans shouldn't be driving.