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Re:Solar Now Produces a Better Energy Return on Investment T... by Dylan16807 on Tuesday December 20, 2016 @05:54PM (#13225077)
You subtract the taxes specific to the industry. Not all their taxes. Are there any such taxes?
Re:Solar Now Produces a Better Energy Return on Investment T... by ajss on Tuesday December 20, 2016 @06:24PM (#13225335)
I subtract all their taxes. If Exxon pays $100bn/yr in various normal taxes, and the government pays them $1bn/yr in fossil fuel subsidies, that's a net subsidy of -$99bn/yr.

How can it be a fair representation of their situation to only say they receive $1bn/yr in subsidy?

Re:Solar Now Produces a Better Energy Return on Investment T... by Dylan16807 on Tuesday December 20, 2016 @06:45PM (#13225463)
Because something like income tax is a given. We're not comparing against a world with no government. We're comparing against a situation where they get no special attention. You can use whatever word you want for it, but if a company pays half as much tax as everyone else that's a big deal.

You're right to say that it's not fair to only list the $1bn. It should be put in context of the $100bn of normal taxes. But reducing it to "$99bn" is not a fair representation either. It doesn't tell you if they otherwise would have paid 100 or 200.

Re:Solar Now Produces a Better Energy Return on Investment T... by ajss on Tuesday December 20, 2016 @06:58PM (#13225531)
I'm quite happy to accept the reporting of both gross taxes and gross subsidies. My objection is to only comparing the gross subsidies.