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Re:Getting Rid of Comments on Vice.com by astrodust on Tuesday December 20, 2016 @04:37PM (#13224292)
These days The Economist and Teen Vogue have more in common than most are prepared to admit.

It's disappointing that the only publications willing to tackle heavy issues are things like Vogue, The Rolling Stone and Vice Magazine. The rest seem content to sit back and take a more academic approach if they take one at all.

USA Today, like CNN, is utterly worthless.

Re:Getting Rid of Comments on Vice.com by newswriter99 on Tuesday December 20, 2016 @04:46PM (#13224379)
Rolling Stone lost all credibility after publishing that fake rape story.
Re:Getting Rid of Comments on Vice.com by astrodust on Tuesday December 20, 2016 @04:57PM (#13224486)
One story, all credibility, huh? You must live in a world where nobody is credible.

The New York Times has suffered hits to its credibility, fake photographers, plagiarism and such, but that doesn't necessarily negate all the work done by their talented staff. There's still good work being done there despite those setbacks. It's a fallacy to instantly discount everything as without merit, putting it on the same level as Breitbart.

Like always you need to regard things with a critical eye.

Re:Getting Rid of Comments on Vice.com by baobrain on Tuesday December 20, 2016 @10:18PM (#13226563)
I would highly recommend checking out the Columbia school of journalism's analysis.[0]

While other publications have had lapses in journalistic integrity, rolling stones case is especially egregious. Along every step of the way, the writer and her editors violated the basics of journalistic integrity, like not fact checking and trusting one side.

[0]http://www.cjr.org/investigation/rolling_stone_investigation...

Re:Getting Rid of Comments on Vice.com by Chris2048 on Wednesday December 21, 2016 @05:56AM (#13228200)
> One story, all credibility, huh?

Yes. The "story" made specific criminal accusations.

> You must live in a world where nobody is credible.

Publications are held to a different standard.

> New York Times... but that doesn't necessarily negate all the work

It just means you can no longer trust the publication.

> putting it on the same level as Breitbart

Here we go. Tell me what's wrong with Breitbart?

Re:Getting Rid of Comments on Vice.com by phaemon on Wednesday December 21, 2016 @07:20AM (#13228525)
> Here we go. Tell me what's wrong with Breitbart?

Every story they run on climate change is a pile of innumerate, scientifically illiterate crap? Those are the only stories I see from them as they get quoted for amusement value sometimes on the Sea Ice forums.

But maybe their sports coverage is good or something. Who knows.

Re:Getting Rid of Comments on Vice.com by Chris2048 on Wednesday December 21, 2016 @11:05AM (#13230119)
> Who knows.

You, apparently, since you talked of "the same level as Breitbart", though don't apparently know what that is.

Also, if you have specific knowledge of a subject area, you might be inclined to a kind of reversal of the Gell-Mann Amnesia effect: judging a publication on you area of expertise alone, when publications may differ in their relative strengths.

Re:Getting Rid of Comments on Vice.com by phaemon on Wednesday December 21, 2016 @11:24AM (#13230281)
No I didn't, that was `astrodust`, not me. I was just providing an example of something that was wrong with them.
Re:Getting Rid of Comments on Vice.com by Chris2048 on Wednesday December 21, 2016 @12:16PM (#13230763)
Sorry, my mistake.

On the other hand.. You answered for them? Only astrodust can know what problem astrodust has with Breitbart...

Re:Getting Rid of Comments on Vice.com by astrodust on Wednesday December 21, 2016 @02:11PM (#13231750)
You must be living under a rock. They're a tabloid on par with Weekly World News.

http://money.cnn.com/2016/11/14/media/breitbart-incendiary-h...

Re:Getting Rid of Comments on Vice.com by insickness on Wednesday December 21, 2016 @10:28PM (#13234517)
You're linking to CNN, who told us that it was illegal for anyone but CNN journalists to read Wikileaks. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_X16_KzX1vE
Re:Getting Rid of Comments on Vice.com by Chris2048 on Thursday December 22, 2016 @05:43AM (#13236354)
A page full of snippets with little context.

Just to pick one: 'A July article suggested that research revealed "women might just suck at job interviews."'

Is this claim false?

Re:Getting Rid of Comments on Vice.com by phaemon on Friday December 23, 2016 @05:44AM (#13244120)
You didn't ask what problem astrodust had with them. You asked what's wrong with them. I told you one thing.

If you want a private conversation, then HN comments are the wrong venue.

Re:Getting Rid of Comments on Vice.com by Chris2048 on Monday January 02, 2017 @07:35AM (#13300797)
The context suggested I was asking what problem astrodust had with them.

I was asking astrodust specifically, and anyone else can see the answer; this would not be the case with a "private conversion".

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Re:Getting Rid of Comments on Vice.com by Chris2048 on Thursday December 22, 2016 @05:44AM (#13236359)
People said the same thing about Hilary.

I guess we both have blind-spots, so let's share the evidence. There's been a lot of fake news around.