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Re:How Apple Alienated Mac Loyalists by dkonofalski on Tuesday December 20, 2016 @03:07PM (#13223459)
What, really? What happens when you plug it in? Does it tell you that you can't use it? Does it lock you out? Does it brick the phone?

Ohhhh...you meant that you have to get an adapter. Of course you can plug the phone into the new MacBook. The only thing that might be absurd is that you might need an adapter to plug it in but, in reality, there's nothing that you'd really need to plug it in for anyways except to charge it and you get a power brick with every phone.

Re:How Apple Alienated Mac Loyalists by sixstringtheory on Tuesday December 20, 2016 @10:39PM (#13226630)
To build and deploy an app from Xcode to a phone, it must be plugged in.

For how much money the app ecosystem brings Apple, they sure don't throw the developers many bones.

Re:How Apple Alienated Mac Loyalists by dkonofalski on Wednesday December 21, 2016 @11:34AM (#13230400)
While I agree with your sentiment, developers are a very, very small subset of the population that uses Apple products.
Re:How Apple Alienated Mac Loyalists by elliotec on Tuesday December 20, 2016 @04:26PM (#13224188)
It is completely absurd and user hostile that you need to buy an adapter to plug it in.

I charge my phone in my laptop often.

Re:How Apple Alienated Mac Loyalists by dkonofalski on Tuesday December 20, 2016 @04:35PM (#13224270)
The phone comes with everything you need to charge it. It is neither absurd nor user-hostile. Inconvenient, maybe. Annoying, yes. Anything else is an exaggeration.
Re:How Apple Alienated Mac Loyalists by elliotec on Wednesday December 21, 2016 @12:08PM (#13230697)
I mean, you're pretty wrong about this, but that's ok.
Re:How Apple Alienated Mac Loyalists by dkonofalski on Wednesday December 21, 2016 @12:39PM (#13230958)
How am I wrong? The phone comes with a charger and a power block. Unless you want to clarify, your statement means nothing.
Re:How Apple Alienated Mac Loyalists by rnet85 on Tuesday December 20, 2016 @05:54PM (#13225078)
Yes, you've to get an adaptor, but when I've invested thousands into their ecosystem there is a certain level of expectation that their products work integrate seamlessly without such hassles.
Re:How Apple Alienated Mac Loyalists by dkonofalski on Wednesday December 21, 2016 @11:35AM (#13230412)
They do. You don't have to plug in an iPhone to the computer to do anything, unless you're a developer. The majority of people using the iPhone and the new Macbook have no need to plug it in.
Re:How Apple Alienated Mac Loyalists by elliotec on Wednesday December 21, 2016 @12:08PM (#13230701)
PS, most of us here are developers.
Re:How Apple Alienated Mac Loyalists by dkonofalski on Wednesday December 21, 2016 @12:40PM (#13230966)
Of course and that includes me. We need to get better, though, and realize that our needs are not representative of everyone that might purchase a tech product.
Re:How Apple Alienated Mac Loyalists by blackrose on Tuesday December 20, 2016 @07:52PM (#13225867)
It's called "batteries not included" and it's a shitty thing to do as a company when you're selling a several-hundred-dollar device.

Seriously? They can't include a $19 cord?