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Re:How Apple Alienated Mac Loyalists by falcolas on Tuesday December 20, 2016 @11:59AM (#13221594)
When reading more than few lines of text on the screen, my hands do not tend to remain on the keyboard. They instead drift up the sides of the computer, making the screen closer than the touchpad.

Not to mention, having the option to use both certainly doesn't harm anyone.

Re:How Apple Alienated Mac Loyalists by mcphage on Tuesday December 20, 2016 @12:54PM (#13222168)
> They instead drift up the sides of the computer, making the screen closer than the touchpad.

Isn't that uncomfortable?

Re:How Apple Alienated Mac Loyalists by falcolas on Tuesday December 20, 2016 @02:33PM (#13223130)
Nope. Well, no more uncomfortable than working on a laptop without an external monitor ever is.

Merely taking my hands off the keyboard is enough for them to move out and away, since I have to "swing" them in to use the keyboard to begin with. This leaves them inches from the screen in the best case, and nowhere near the computer in the worse case.

Re:How Apple Alienated Mac Loyalists by dr_zoidberg on Tuesday December 20, 2016 @01:12PM (#13222359)
Apparently not. My father got a HP netbook/tablet and feels super comfortable with it, scrolling and zooming in with gestures on the screen. I never thought it'd be comfortable (for scrolling I'm super used to the mouse wheel, a habit he never caught), but to him it came naturally and he certainly wants it on any other device.
Re:How Apple Alienated Mac Loyalists by comex on Tuesday December 20, 2016 @04:49PM (#13224412)
> They instead drift up the sides of the computer, making the screen closer than the touchpad.

Hmm… if you did that on a new MacBook Pro, wouldn't drifting up the side leave your thumbs somewhere near the Touch Bar? Maybe Apple should add support for scrolling on its edges. Of course, that'd still be a much smaller target than the screen... on the other hand, it would work regardless of window positioning and even with an external monitor.

I'm only speculating, since I don't think I've gotten into that habit myself (not having a touchscreen).