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Re:Tim Cook assures employees that Apple is committed to the... by rocky1138 on Tuesday December 20, 2016 @12:40AM (#13217739)
This is also a good indicator:

“I think if you’re looking at a PC, why would you buy a PC anymore?" Tim Cook told the paper during a trip to visit Apple's flagship store in London for the debut of its powerful big-screen tablet, the new iPad Pro. "No really," he said, "why would you buy one?”

http://fortune.com/2015/11/10/apple-ceo-tim-cook-pc/

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Re:Tim Cook assures employees that Apple is committed to the... by comex on Tuesday December 20, 2016 @01:03AM (#13217837)
No offense, but this is like one of those false stories in politics that keeps spreading no matter what the fact checkers say. I've seen that quote posted on HN like five times now. It doesn't mean what you think it means. Tim Cook isn't actually so undisciplined that he would call an entire product line of his company useless in an interview.

In Apple's world, "PC" means Windows PC; the Mac is not a "PC". As Gruber noted[1], remember the ad campaign - "I'm a Mac, and I'm a PC..."

[1] http://daringfireball.net/linked/2016/10/31/cook-why-would-y...

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Re:Tim Cook assures employees that Apple is committed to the... by canuckintime on Tuesday December 20, 2016 @04:46AM (#13218597)
And I've seen that DaringFireball 'rebuttal' posted a couple of times even though it's false

"No Gruber is just plain wrong. I thought I remembered Cook using "PC" to mean Mac and WinPC, and, after a little Googling, found I was right" [1]

[1] https://myfreakinname.blogspot.com/2016/11/john-hodgman-is-n...

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Re:Tim Cook assures employees that Apple is committed to the... by dkonofalski on Thursday December 22, 2016 @01:38PM (#13239308)
That looks like the manifesto of someone that's gone completely crazy.
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Re:Tim Cook assures employees that Apple is committed to the... by pjmlp on Tuesday December 20, 2016 @01:43AM (#13217972)
Well they have videos pushing the iPad Pro as computer replacement.

https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=1zPYW6Ipgok

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Re:Tim Cook assures employees that Apple is committed to the... by comex on Tuesday December 20, 2016 @03:01AM (#13218241)
Yes, Apple definitely wants the iPad to work as a computer replacement, but they also recognize it's not good enough as a replacement for most power users (yet). In fact, in the same article as the "why would you" quote, Tim Cook goes on to say the iPad Pro can replace "a notebook or a desktop for many, many people". "A notebook or a desktop", unlike "a PC", does include Macs, but saying the iPad Pro can replace them for "many, many people" implies it can't for others.
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Re:Tim Cook assures employees that Apple is committed to the... by lobster_johnson on Tuesday December 20, 2016 @01:45AM (#13217982)
How so? The Mac is not a PC.
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Re:Tim Cook assures employees that Apple is committed to the... by flukus on Tuesday December 20, 2016 @01:48AM (#13217989)
The mac is a personal computer.
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Re:Tim Cook assures employees that Apple is committed to the... by lobster_johnson on Tuesday December 20, 2016 @02:02AM (#13218036)
Yes, but "PC" has a very specific meaning in almost every context, and Apple never refer to their machines as PCs. Which is why Apple was able to run those "I'm a Mac/I'm a PC" ads.
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Re:Tim Cook assures employees that Apple is committed to the... by lmm on Tuesday December 20, 2016 @07:10AM (#13219141)
It really doesn't though. Apple fans may define "PC" differently, but to the ordinary person in the street, a Mac is a PC is a computer.
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Re:Tim Cook assures employees that Apple is committed to the... by PudgePacket on Tuesday December 20, 2016 @09:07AM (#13219864)
"never" is a bit strong, I have this video cover saying otherwise :) http://i.imgur.com/aEgG96c.jpg
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Re:Tim Cook assures employees that Apple is committed to the... by Aaargh20318 on Tuesday December 20, 2016 @04:19AM (#13218487)
Sure. But it's not a Personal Computer (or compatible).

The term PC does not refer to any computer intended for personal use, it refers to machines compatible with the IBM 5150 Personal Computer.

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Re:Tim Cook assures employees that Apple is committed to the... by josteink on Tuesday December 20, 2016 @05:39AM (#13218780)
> Sure. But it's not a Personal Computer (or compatible).

Sure it is. It made out of stock X86 hardware components. It uses stock PC expansion modules. It can boot and run both Windows and Linux.

Exactly how is not a PC?

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Re:Tim Cook assures employees that Apple is committed to the... by Aaargh20318 on Tuesday December 20, 2016 @09:06AM (#13219852)
It's not about wether it can run Windows or Linux. It's about wether it can run PC-DOS 1.0 and applications written for it.
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Re:Tim Cook assures employees that Apple is committed to the... by tossedaway334 on Tuesday December 20, 2016 @09:25AM (#13220006)
modern non-apple x86 uefi systems cannot run PC-DOS 1.0 or the applications written for it either.
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Re:Tim Cook assures employees that Apple is committed to the... by Aaargh20318 on Wednesday December 21, 2016 @03:59PM (#13232567)
Don't Non-Apple UEFI systems usually include a BIOS-emulation mode ?
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Re:Tim Cook assures employees that Apple is committed to the... by lsadam0 on Tuesday December 20, 2016 @09:05AM (#13219846)
If a modern mac does not meet that definition, then no modern hardware labeled as a 'PC' does.
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