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Re:Show HN: Eskéndereyya – Learn How to Read and Write Arabi... by krick on Saturday December 17, 2016 @09:04PM (#13203920)

That's my impression of the statement as well. Even if technically they can be called diacritics it doesn't make much sense, not within this discussion. "Й" sounds absolutely unlike "и" and has pretty much no connection to it. "Ё" is a bit more tricky, but nevertheless — there's no another letter in Russian alphabet we could put umlaut on and get the result similar to putting umlaut on "е".

I guess "ь" has more right to be called diacritic, because it genuinely has 1 purpose: altering the other sounds. But even that is treated as a separate letter.

It's nothing like diacritics in French, German or even Latvian, let alone Arabic.

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Re:Show HN: Eskéndereyya – Learn How to Read and Write Arabi... by varjag on Sunday December 18, 2016 @06:01AM (#13205322)

Й is absolutely linked with и, and it arose as alphabetic distinction from it. It appeared and disappeared for certain periods; in Russian it reestablished as a letter only in 20th century. It is still commonly collated with И in indexes and dictionaries.

> "Ё" is a bit more tricky, but nevertheless — there's no another letter in Russian alphabet we could put umlaut on and get the result similar to putting umlaut on "е".

This is a bizarre distinction: diacritics in natural languages aren't supposed to be freely recombinable.

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