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Re:The Great A.I. Awakening by varjag on Friday December 16, 2016 @09:22AM (#13193374)
> Compared to every other life form on Earth you are super intelligence. This super intelligence thing has already happened once.

You extrapolate the trend from one data point. There is no indication that we have some matyoshka type hierarchy of intelligence. It could well be binary, either intelligent or not. No reason so far to think otherwise.

> You can't beat chess in one move because mathematics does not allow it.

So what superintelligence can do that "ordinary" intelligence in right quantities couldn't? Something specific beyond theoretical grasp of "just" intelligent machine?

Re:The Great A.I. Awakening by psyc on Friday December 16, 2016 @10:24AM (#13193839)
> So what superintelligence can do that "ordinary" intelligence in right quantities couldn't?

Conceive of answers to this question that we can't. Do you really believe the human imagination captures all of possibility? Why?

Re:The Great A.I. Awakening by varjag on Friday December 16, 2016 @10:56AM (#13194089)
The search space of all possibilities is infinite, and hence beyond the grasp of any intelligence. I firmly believe human imagination and all other forms of intelligence are restricted by mathematics and physics of our universe. And as such, the fundamental set of solvable problems remains the same.

Would be nice to hear some specific arguments against instead of Penrose-like quantum handwaving and pet analogies.

Re:The Great A.I. Awakening by eli_gottlieb on Friday December 16, 2016 @11:08AM (#13194179)
>Do you really believe the human imagination captures all of possibility? Why?

Well yes, because we are already generally intelligent. The problem is not to have the right hypothesis space built into our wetware, but to locate correct (action-guidingly veridical) hypotheses within the existing hypothesis space based upon sense-data.

Re:The Great A.I. Awakening by benibela on Friday December 16, 2016 @11:48AM (#13194553)
Human imagination is Turing-complete.

If the AI runs on a normal computer, it is also Turing-complete and not beyond.

So they have the same limits

Re:The Great A.I. Awakening by psyc on Friday December 16, 2016 @12:19PM (#13194856)
The difference is in the usual practical constraints of time and space.