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Re:Apple Removes 'Time Remaining' Battery Life Indicator in ... by debt on Thursday December 15, 2016 @11:53AM (#13185972)
they removed it because it's inaccurate and useless. if i start rendering some huge video then the time remaining goes down drastically. so it said 90 minutes, it now says 10 minutes.

useless.

Re:Apple Removes 'Time Remaining' Battery Life Indicator in ... by erelde on Thursday December 15, 2016 @11:58AM (#13186022)
But... That's logical.

It evaluates the remaining time using current ressource usage. It is "accurate". It can't predict how much time your rendering will take, it can't predict the future. But it does an accurate estimate of how much the battery will last under the current load.

(imo, current load is better than trying to compute the load trend)

Re:Apple Removes 'Time Remaining' Battery Life Indicator in ... by debt on Thursday December 15, 2016 @02:47PM (#13187597)
logical but still useless.

if a measurement like time remaining can change at random based on load and the load can change at random based on user behavior then why show time remaining at all?

if it jumps from 90 minutes to 10 minutes, what's the point of even showing it?

"okay now i have 10 minutes left"

it would be more accurate to say "you have 90 minutes left at your current level of cpu utilization" but i don't think that can fit in the menu

help me figure it out, i don't get why a user would need this functionality ever.

Re:Apple Removes 'Time Remaining' Battery Life Indicator in ... by erelde on Thursday December 15, 2016 @02:49PM (#13187626)
Because "you have x minutes left at your current level of cpu utilization" has always been implied.

If user have forgotten that, it's no reason to remove it.

In fact there's rarely a reason to remove a feature if it doesn't cause issues.

Taking your own exemple of video rendering, if I begin a render and After Effect (or similar) says it will take 50 minutes to render, but the remaining time says I only have 20 minutes left of battery (implying "at the current load"), I know I have to charge my laptop if I want to render the video.

Re:Apple Removes 'Time Remaining' Battery Life Indicator in ... by zeahfj on Thursday December 15, 2016 @12:04PM (#13186086)
That sounds like the opposite of useless. You now know how long you have left based on your activity and can adjust accordingly with this new information
Re:Apple Removes 'Time Remaining' Battery Life Indicator in ... by rbinv on Thursday December 15, 2016 @11:56AM (#13186001)
I think it is (was) a handy feature to estimate the current load/power usage. I found it to be rather accurate.
Re:Apple Removes 'Time Remaining' Battery Life Indicator in ... by niij on Thursday December 15, 2016 @11:57AM (#13186014)
I think the time remaining reflects estimated time with current usage. I don't think having a estimate of how much longer I can browse HN before needing to plug in is useless.
Re:Apple Removes 'Time Remaining' Battery Life Indicator in ... by ebbv on Thursday December 15, 2016 @12:15PM (#13186188)
Of course. The MPG indicator in your car will change if you start flooring your accelerator. That doesn't mean you get rid of it.

The reality is the new MBP w/Touchbar have worse battery life than the previous generation and people called them out on it. Instead of owning it they have chosen to remove the indicator, a useful tool for many of their users.

Apple truly has lost their way.

Re:Apple Removes 'Time Remaining' Battery Life Indicator in ... by debt on Thursday December 15, 2016 @02:49PM (#13187620)
actually the MPG-style indicator would be more appropriate in this case i think. they're similar but aren't they different?

one shows rate and the other shows the amount of gas left? it might be accurate to change it from "time remaining" to watts per hour or something idk.