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Re:The mystique of Goldman Sachs by gragas on Thursday December 15, 2016 @11:51AM (#13185952)
>Cut to 2008, when Goldman made money off the economic collapse by shorting the housing market. The firm was charged with fraud in 2010.

First of all, that's non-sequitur. Second, why is it evil to short the housing market?

Washington Post really knows how to cater to its readership...

Re:The mystique of Goldman Sachs by forgetsusername on Thursday December 15, 2016 @11:53AM (#13185973)
>Second, why is it evil to short the housing market?

People don't understand the basic concept that in order to buy something, someone needs to sell something...which is going short.

Re:The mystique of Goldman Sachs by andrevvo on Thursday December 15, 2016 @02:52PM (#13187652)
This is completely misguided as AnimalMuppet pointed out. The following is a decent article explaining how shorting works:

http://www.investopedia.com/university/shortselling/shortsel...

Re:The mystique of Goldman Sachs by AnimalMuppet on Thursday December 15, 2016 @12:23PM (#13186270)
No. It's only going short when you sell something that you don't have - that is, you sell something borrowed. It's not clear to me how one would do that with houses. You could short homebuilders and mortgage companies, but that's about all.
Re:The mystique of Goldman Sachs by andrevvo on Thursday December 15, 2016 @02:47PM (#13187601)
Mortgage payments are bundled into securities called RMBS. By shorting these securities, you are not shorting the mortgage company, but the assets themselves (the mortgage receivables).
Re:The mystique of Goldman Sachs by AnimalMuppet on Thursday December 15, 2016 @03:09PM (#13187822)
Can you short those?
Re:The mystique of Goldman Sachs by andrevvo on Thursday December 15, 2016 @03:43PM (#13188189)
Yup, best way to think about them are as bonds in which the credit rating is determined by the underlying asset quality rather than the company itself.
Re:The mystique of Goldman Sachs by AnimalMuppet on Thursday December 15, 2016 @04:13PM (#13188453)
TIL.