Re:Does It Make Sense for Programmers to Move to the Bay Area?
by krenoten on Wednesday December 14, 2016 @05:22PM
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I've been far happier as an engineer in NYC and Berlin than SF. Gentrification has made SF a pretty boring place to be, and I felt that my overall sense of creativity plummeted there when I was surrounded by so few people from different backgrounds.
Re:Does It Make Sense for Programmers to Move to the Bay Area?
by westoncb on Wednesday December 14, 2016 @05:32PM
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Agreed. I ended up moving across the bay and living in Berkeley while working in SF just for that reason.
Re:Does It Make Sense for Programmers to Move to the Bay Area?
by pascalxus on Thursday December 15, 2016 @07:32PM
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I don't think there's nearly as much gentrification as people say there is, overall. I mean sure, there's a huge amount of gentrification in the 20% of SF that is not rent controlled: there only the super rich can live.
But, as for the other 80% that's rent controlled, lots of it is pretty dilapidated, almost borderline 3rd world country in some parts. 1% (7k people) of the SF population is homeless and even more are nearly there (despite over 240 million$ a year spent fighting homelessness).
Perhaps the reason people find SF boring is due to the hollowing out of the middle class.
Re:Does It Make Sense for Programmers to Move to the Bay Area?
by ido on Thursday December 15, 2016 @05:50AM
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It's kinda funny though, as people in Berlin at least (I'm sure in NYC too) are constantly complaining about gentrification too :)
Re:Does It Make Sense for Programmers to Move to the Bay Area?
by eganist on Wednesday December 14, 2016 @04:54PM
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Adding one: if you're doing anything security related, DC's your friend.
Re:Does It Make Sense for Programmers to Move to the Bay Area?
by mooreds on Wednesday December 14, 2016 @05:08PM
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Good point!
And if you are into oil/gas, Houston. Marijuana, Colorado or Washington. Cars, Detroit (maybe?). Commodities, Chicago. Ag, Kansas City (maybe?). Outdoor experiences, SLC. Building something for Latin America, Miami. Ets, etc.
I imagine there are many other cities that dominate in niches that I'm missing.
Re:Does It Make Sense for Programmers to Move to the Bay Area?
by estsauver on Wednesday December 14, 2016 @05:47PM
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St. Louis tends to be one of the best cities for Ag stuff.
Re:Does It Make Sense for Programmers to Move to the Bay Area?
by heneryville on Wednesday December 14, 2016 @09:59PM
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For the ignorant, what's AG? Google isn't helping.
Re:Does It Make Sense for Programmers to Move to the Bay Area?
by vram22 on Thursday December 15, 2016 @02:03PM
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Someone should tell Google (hey googlers on here) to add that case to the search engine's special cases, as in: "Did you mean agriculture or (the chemical symbol for) silver [1] or ..." :)
Re:Does It Make Sense for Programmers to Move to the Bay Area?
by herdrick on Wednesday December 14, 2016 @10:12PM
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Agriculture.
Re:Does It Make Sense for Programmers to Move to the Bay Area?
by chaoticgeek on Wednesday December 14, 2016 @10:37PM
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I live in the Detroit suburbs. Can confirm many programmers working for auto companies around here and friends with a few.
If you are building a company that needs VC funding. Most companies don't.
"Venture Capital is the wrong source of capital for the vast majority of entrepreneurial ventures" http://avc.com/2005/03/dont_take_the_m/
If you aren't looking to raise VC but instead want to be part of a vibrant tech ecosystem, well, that opens up more mid tier cities. For starters: San Diego, LA, Boulder, Austin, Portland, Pittsburgh(?) in the USA.