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Re:Waymo: Google's self-driving car company by ticviking on Tuesday December 13, 2016 @05:20PM (#13171700)
That's a key point here.

The cars don't have to be perfectly safe, just safer than the average driver.

Re:Waymo: Google's self-driving car company by legolas2412 on Tuesday December 13, 2016 @07:20PM (#13172655)
Not to get personal, but I'm getting tired of seeing this argument.

Why are people looking at the extremes? Only human drivers or a completely self driven car? What about a driver assistance system, that corrects a Human's stupid mistakes and still lets the human drive. I'm sure this hybrid (which is the current industry) is safer than both your extremes

Re:Waymo: Google's self-driving car company by dispose13432 on Tuesday December 13, 2016 @06:55PM (#13172521)
It's true, but is it better?

Are there statistics?

It's true that humans do stupid things, but so do robots.

What would be _safer_ is an automated "hit" avoid system (if you're about to hit a wall, warn!!) or long distance driving system (for trucks/buses).

Re:Waymo: Google's self-driving car company by woofyman on Tuesday December 13, 2016 @05:36PM (#13171852)
It has be better than the best human driver or they'll get sued out of existance. You can't sell a product that you know will hurt or kill a certain number of people.
Re:Waymo: Google's self-driving car company by bhntr3 on Tuesday December 13, 2016 @06:27PM (#13172287)
What happened to worst case analysis? Don't we all know the flaws of best case?

I think (and I could be wrong) that there are many more cases where conservative driving is safer than aggressive driving.

In a lot of the cases mentioned, doing nothing or stopping are the safest choices. What's safe to drive over? Just assume everything is unsafe and only drive over it if it puts others in danger to avoid it.

If the road is blocked and you need to communicate to navigate, don't. Wait.

If the road conditions are changed due to construction in ways the car can't understand, stop. Find a new route.

Most humans wouldn't do these things. The nice thing about the autonomous car is that it can drive extremely cautiously.

Re:Waymo: Google's self-driving car company by deadbunny on Tuesday December 13, 2016 @05:56PM (#13172039)
I'm pretty sure the car industry has been doing that for years.
Re:Waymo: Google's self-driving car company by woofyman on Tuesday December 13, 2016 @06:13PM (#13172176)
They get sued if they knowingly sell a defective product.
Re:Waymo: Google's self-driving car company by ageofwant on Tuesday December 13, 2016 @06:01PM (#13172084)
Sorry no. Cars kill thousands of people every year, and will continue to do so. Car companies are doing just fine. Power companies literally kill millions every year, a-ok. McDonalds, Coca Cola ? ditto.
Re:Waymo: Google's self-driving car company by woofyman on Tuesday December 13, 2016 @06:12PM (#13172168)
Drivers kill, not the cars. That's totally different from an autonomous car killing someone. Humans make mistakes. That's different from a defective product.
Re:Waymo: Google's self-driving car company by CN7R on Tuesday December 13, 2016 @07:00PM (#13172555)
I feel like debate about autonomous cars extends ideas of "who's to blame -- the human or the gun?"
Re:Waymo: Google's self-driving car company by ageofwant on Tuesday December 13, 2016 @06:31PM (#13172316)
And then it gets fixed, just like with current defects on current cars. Why should it be any different ?