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Re:Waymo: Google's self-driving car company by Animats on Tuesday December 13, 2016 @03:15PM (#13170516)
Five years from now:

* All the big auto manufacturers are shipping self-driving cars. Volvo is the first to ship a Level 3 system to real customers.

* Tesla is doing OK, but the big electric car brand is Chevy.

* Waymo is a Tier I supplier to Fiat/Chrysler.

* GM and Ford are using their own self-driving technology.

* Uber is still around, but is out of investor cash, and has to be profitable to pay back its loans. The service is much more expensive to use. Their self-driving thing never works out for them because they can't spend big money to buy cars, build garages, and staff up for maintenance.

* Lyft is still around, about the same as it is now.

* The mini autonomous bus people have some installations, but they're rare outside airports and campuses.

Re:Waymo: Google's self-driving car company by DennisP on Tuesday December 13, 2016 @03:20PM (#13170556)
Why Volvo?
Re:Waymo: Google's self-driving car company by tim333 on Tuesday December 13, 2016 @03:57PM (#13170922)
"Level 3: Within known, limited environments (such as freeways), the driver can safely turn their attention away from driving tasks"

Volvo have announced shipping that in 2017. I don't think anyone else has. (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2q00jIBhkq4)

Re:Waymo: Google's self-driving car company by grecy on Tuesday December 13, 2016 @05:05PM (#13171559)
Based on the videos on YouTube, I would say Tesla are already shipping that.
Re:Waymo: Google's self-driving car company by tim333 on Tuesday December 13, 2016 @06:46PM (#13172441)
Tesla say you should look where you're going still.
Re:Waymo: Google's self-driving car company by Ph0X on Tuesday December 13, 2016 @08:52PM (#13173166)
Yes, I believe they have an L2 but are working towards and L4. Google is still going straight for L5, which is the only case where you can fully remove the steering wheel. It's a huge bed, and a bit silly, honestly. I feel like at this point, they've definitely got L4 down.

L4 basically says the car can drive itself without attention in most cases. Driver only needs to take over in extreme cases where the computer can't figure it out (something on the road blocking, sever weather, super abnormal situation).

Re:Waymo: Google's self-driving car company by NamTaf on Tuesday December 13, 2016 @08:40PM (#13173098)
That's provably false given there's been cases where Teslas have already slammed into other vehicles on freeways.
Re:Waymo: Google's self-driving car company by jfim on Tuesday December 13, 2016 @03:50PM (#13170851)
Volvo has been doing research on self-driving cars for a while, with existing vehicles in operation for research purposes.