Note that BookmarkSaver isn't merely claiming that you are obligated to curl a URL without grepping the output. He/she is claiming that after you curl the URL you are obligated to parse the response and execute all code and make every request described in the document (recursively, perhaps). It's a more laughable (or horrifying, or some combination) position than you are portraying it to be.
Just taking this argument to its logical conclusion: Can I be held liable for theft if I load an article on my smartphone, and it loses connection before the ad can be requested and loaded? :)
Re:There are no acceptable ads
by BookmarkSaver on Friday December 16, 2016 @01:27PM
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How the hell is that a "logical conclusion"? That is a ridiculous and completely unrelated point, and the fact that you somehow think that it is the "logical conclusion" just shows that you have no objectivity in the matter.
Re:There are no acceptable ads
by BookmarkSaver on Friday December 16, 2016 @01:31PM
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Thanks for making an idiotic and blatantly incorrect interpretation of my statement.
Of course you do. That's a big part of the success of the web. curl + grep for a very basic example, wallabag, hosts file, firebug, flashblock, disabling images, disabling scripts, disabling animations, opera's content blocker to cite a few others.
You can't tell if a page has ads until you get there, and some ads may be injected in every pages by your isp, your browser or various malwares so basically what you're saying is do not surf the web at all. Sorry, not sorry the actual solution to not be invaded by ads is to use and adblocker.
It is a very broken assumption that people implicitly agree to see ads. It is actually the other way around historically, when reading a newspaper or a magazine and encountering ads I can skip them without even looking, I could even cut away the couple pages that I've interest in. Actually it's not even limited to ads, it applies to the whole thing. If an article doesn't interest me I will just turn the page.
As you said the news article is already paid by ads so there's no need to see them. Until you factor in tracking that is. In a newspaper the advertiser paid the newspaper to print ads along with articles and that's about it because there's no way to track what user look at in a newspaper. On a website, advertising is just the visible tip of a huge tracking iceberg.
Once again "your failed business model is not my problem". If you hoped you'd make money and you don't because you made bad assumptions, how am I concerned ?