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Re:Let’s relocate a bunch of government agencies to the Midwest by GFK_of_xmaspast on Saturday December 10, 2016 @10:38PM (#13149467)
The author suggests moving all 20k NIH employees to Cleveland, and seems to think that all 20k will go along with this instead of finding different employment that doesn't involve uprooting their families and moving to Ohio.
Re:Let’s relocate a bunch of government agencies to the Midwest by benbrown on Saturday December 10, 2016 @11:18PM (#13149567)
The basic premise may be disruptive in a "Big Bang" move but could be accomplished gradually by building new facilities and shifting project flow over time.

Also, the DoD makes fast changes like this all the time as the result of BRAC. Government employees don't tend to just up and change jobs - they are career workers who like the stability and promise of a pension.

Re:Let’s relocate a bunch of government agencies to the Midwest by MistahKoala on Sunday December 11, 2016 @04:19AM (#13150292)
Would the German experience of transitioning from Bonn to Berlin be of much relevance here?
Re:Let’s relocate a bunch of government agencies to the Midwest by mschuster91 on Sunday December 11, 2016 @09:56AM (#13151296)
It's STILL not completed, over two and a half decades after the wall fell. The amount of money wasted is incredible (7.5M € in 2016 in direct costs, http://www.merkur.de/politik/hendricks-stellt-bericht-zum-bo...), not to mention wasted time and the loss of efficiency because teams and management are split across Germany.
Re:Let’s relocate a bunch of government agencies to the Midwest by MistahKoala on Saturday December 17, 2016 @08:12AM (#13200575)
Really! I had no idea. I barely ever see a reference to Bonn in anything I read about Germany these days; I'd formed the impression that everyone had moved in the 90s.
Re:Let’s relocate a bunch of government agencies to the Midwest by GFK_of_xmaspast on Sunday December 11, 2016 @10:51AM (#13151531)
(a) The difference between moving civilians and moving military personnel is that if a civilian doesn't want to go they can just resign, but if the military person doesn't want to go they have to suck it up and go anyway. (b) The "good" government pension hasn't been available since the 80s, (b') uprooting your family and moving hundreds of miles away is a pretty big blow to stability.
Re:Let’s relocate a bunch of government agencies to the Midwest by metaphor on Sunday December 11, 2016 @01:07AM (#13149824)
> ...the DoD makes fast changes like this all the time as the result of BRAC.

Nothing fast results from a BRAC decision.

Re:Let’s relocate a bunch of government agencies to the Midwest by Fomite on Sunday December 11, 2016 @12:05AM (#13149676)
The author also doesn't realize how intertwined many agencies are, including the NIH.

It's not uncommon to have meetings that have NSF, DoE, DoD, NIH and HHS employees all in the same room. This was especially valuable during public health emergencies.

Re:Let’s relocate a bunch of government agencies to the Midwest by pmorici on Sunday December 11, 2016 @08:54AM (#13151063)
Good thing we have video conferencing now.
Re:Let’s relocate a bunch of government agencies to the Midwest by Fomite on Wednesday December 14, 2016 @01:50AM (#13174314)
Really not the same.
Re:Let’s relocate a bunch of government agencies to the Midwest by MonkeyKing01 on Saturday December 10, 2016 @11:36PM (#13149610)
He also assumes that should those people not move, that Cleveland has enough people with the right skillsets to fill the gap.
Re:Let’s relocate a bunch of government agencies to the Midwest by mavelikara on Sunday December 11, 2016 @02:24AM (#13150009)
The more relevant question is this: are there enough people with right skillsets willing to relocate to Cleveland?
Re:Let’s relocate a bunch of government agencies to the Midwest by douche on Sunday December 11, 2016 @07:28AM (#13150788)
Money talks, and the same salary goes a lot farther in Cleveland than DC. It's really dumb that we compress all of our workforce into a few cities, especially in an age when 90% of office jobs can be done just as efficiently anywhere with a high-speed internet connection, rather than face-to-face in a cube farm.
Re:Let’s relocate a bunch of government agencies to the Midwest by GFK_of_xmaspast on Sunday December 11, 2016 @10:54AM (#13151548)
> the same salary goes a lot farther in Cleveland than DC

It's not the same salary, DC's locality pay is higher than Cleveland's : https://www.opm.gov/policy-data-oversight/pay-leave/salaries... vs https://www.opm.gov/policy-data-oversight/pay-leave/salaries...