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Re:Kent Beck: “I get paid for code that works, not for tests... by somecallitblues on Thursday December 08, 2016 @05:00PM (#13134679)
This seperation of programmers to mindless programmers and somehow superior engineers is bullshit. You have to follow the best practices in whatever you do.
Re:Kent Beck: “I get paid for code that works, not for tests... by mlashcorp on Thursday December 08, 2016 @05:29PM (#13134896)
Some people know how to program. Other people dedicated years to the study of computer architectures, first order logic, distributed systems, fault tolerant systems, etc ...

In my opinion, computer science and engineering is not about just making the code you're told, it's about questioning whether that code needs to be done in the first place, and if so, how.

Re:Kent Beck: “I get paid for code that works, not for tests... by tracker1 on Thursday December 08, 2016 @05:43PM (#13134995)
Most software development is not done, or meant to be done as an engineering discipline. It is far more often a craft. That said, it depends on the project, environment, company and legal requirements.
Re:Kent Beck: “I get paid for code that works, not for tests... by mlashcorp on Thursday December 08, 2016 @06:07PM (#13135167)
For that, hire a programmer. Need a dependable architecture for mission critical software? You get the point ...
Re:Kent Beck: “I get paid for code that works, not for tests... by tracker1 on Friday December 09, 2016 @02:43AM (#13137331)
Define mission critical? Can be down for a 15 minute update once a week? Most have transparent updates? Should be up most of the time? Must be up durring East coast business hours?

It still depends.