Re:Qualcomm's Snapdragon 835 to Support Windows 10
by pjmlp on Thursday December 08, 2016 @01:36AM
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Those hybrid tablets have kicked out the Android ones on display in most consumer shops here in Germany, so someone is buying them.
Re:Qualcomm's Snapdragon 835 to Support Windows 10
by vetinari on Thursday December 08, 2016 @05:22AM
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The android ones proved, that no one (in Spolsky meaning of "no one") gets such a device and uses it in both modes.
I had one of them, Asus Transformer, and used it as a tablet only, despite having a keyboard which served as an additional battery. It was both, worse laptop than real laptop and worse tablet than real tablet. So why purchase it at all, when you are going to use it in single mode? There are better choices on the market.
Re:Qualcomm's Snapdragon 835 to Support Windows 10
by pjc50 on Thursday December 08, 2016 @06:14AM
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I too have one and used it with keyboard and touchscreen. And occasionally in detached mode. The "detach at hinge" feature is less critical than being both a "tablet" (usable with touchscreen only) but with a keyboard for sustained text entry. And a hinge so you don't have to prop it up.
Re:Qualcomm's Snapdragon 835 to Support Windows 10
by pjmlp on Thursday December 08, 2016 @09:22AM
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Compared with the Windows experience, Android is certainly lacking and it remains to be seen if Android N will improve it, but given that OEMs are now all betting on Windows 10 for that market segment, I don't see a bright future for it outside mobile phones.
Re:Qualcomm's Snapdragon 835 to Support Windows 10
by addicted on Thursday December 08, 2016 @06:46AM
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The Yoga line from Lenovo is very popular. People don't use their laptops in tent mode the majority of the time, but when they do find themselves in a situation where it's useful it's a massive advantage (e.g, trying to watch a movie on a plane).
Re:Qualcomm's Snapdragon 835 to Support Windows 10
by sliken on Thursday December 08, 2016 @07:35AM
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From what I can tell the convertible laptop is pretty popular with consumers, once, at the time of purchase it's attractive "why not". But the compromises in the design, heavier, often less balanced, larger hinge, heavier, sometimes top heavy, etc aren't generally worth it. But you don't realize that until you buy one and live for it for awhile.
Seems like a fad, not that they will disappear, but that many current convertibles will migrate back to a more traditional design.
Take "hybrid" tablets that can turn their screen around and whatnot. Who actually uses them like that in any significant amount of time? Nobody, that's who. Most people end up using them in the laptop form factor the vast majority of the time.
As for running the desktop versions of Office or Visual Studio on a 5" screen....well you can imagine all the UX problems with that.
If there's anything ground-breaking here at all (and assuming there isn't a huge performance overhead - should be 10% at most, under 3% ideally), it's the fact that now ARM chip makers will be getting access to the "real" (not counting Chromebooks, where Google never tried to encourage the use of ARM anyway, despite the fact that it's architecture-agnostic, and thus doesn't even need to emulate x86 apps like Windows does) PC/notebook market. That, along with AMD's Zen, should make the PC chip market much more competitive in the next 2-3 years.
That's what should really excite everyone, not some gimmicks that will never be used despite all the hype they may be getting.