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Re:Milking the iPhone by rcarmo on Tuesday December 06, 2016 @03:39PM (#13118109)
I read this as far as the "apple watch with mobile connectivity" pipe dream and moved on.

Yes, some day that will be feasible. At current power ratios, not soon, and believing otherwise betrays utter cluelessness.

Re:Milking the iPhone by Jaruzel on Wednesday December 07, 2016 @04:23AM (#13121416)
The problem with moving everything you do from a nice screen to a voice based gadget on your wrist is that the main source of interaction, the Internet, is broken.

If the Internet was made up of proper semantic tagging, and actual useful, machine parsable information, then yeah, sure, make a 'watch' that can answer your spoken queries with meaningful information. Unfortunately, the Internet is so far gone as far as easy information retrieval is concerned, that even the most simplest of queries needs significant backend development of APIs and data re-formatting.

Even if it were doable on a large-data scale your conversations with your watch would go like this:

  User:  Watch, When is the Guns'N'Roses concert on in London?

  Watch: Hi, I'm about to tell you 'when is the Guns'N'Roses concert on in London', 
         but first here is an advert!

  Watch: *LOUDLY* <jingle jingle jingle> (singing) When you get caught short, 
         don't be fraught, with BoneDryos.... Adult Diapers.....! <jingle jingle jingle>

  Watch: The Guns'N'Roses concert in London is on... 
         <beep beep> Need Faster Broadband? say YES now! <beep beep> 
         ... 16th of June 2017.

  User:  Watch, Great! I'll have two tickets please!

  Watch: Hi, I'm about to buy you 'two tickets' for Gun'N'Roses Not In This Lifetime 
         Tour in London, at the London Stadium on the 16th June 2017 at 3pm but first, 
         here's a short promotion... <jingle jingle jing..

  User: Oh, FFS...

As history has shown, once anything useful reaches critical mass, the Marketing Sharks and Money Men take it over to a level of un-usability.
Re:Milking the iPhone by strictfp on Tuesday December 06, 2016 @05:02PM (#13118716)
Re:Milking the iPhone by JumpCrisscross on Tuesday December 06, 2016 @05:21PM (#13118820)
> At current power ratios, not soon

I'm curious, do you know of a credible projection on when this becomes viable?

To be fair, this event being far off underscores the author's argument. It's not yet time to abandon the iPhone sandcastle.

Re:Milking the iPhone by pricechild on Wednesday December 07, 2016 @06:28AM (#13121819)
> At current power ratios, not soon, and believing otherwise betrays utter cluelessness.

Why is this? Is it because of increased power requirements of 3g, 4g etc? Or all the extra useless processing devices do? (Ignoring the screen...)

My first phone was a siemens c30. Apparently the battery capacity was ~600mAh and gave >10 days standby where the Apple watch has ~200mAh and gives ~18h. So the c30 lasted over 3 times longer on the same charge?

Is it really unfeasible to expect us getting back to that same efficiency by cutting back in some areas?

Re:Milking the iPhone by EddieSpeaks on Tuesday December 06, 2016 @04:11PM (#13118373)
Trouble with the iPhone users is that they don't know about other brands. Even the main competition.

The Gear S3 Frontier manages mobile connectivity and superior UX with a supposed 4. Day battery life

Re:Milking the iPhone by r00fus on Tuesday December 06, 2016 @04:38PM (#13118561)
Trouble with other brands? Or are people just not interested because it runs Tizen and has mediocre ratings?

The real crux is I'm simply not going to pay my carrier another $5-20 subscription for another client device.

Re:Milking the iPhone by mikestew on Wednesday December 07, 2016 @12:18PM (#13124195)
I'm painfully aware of other brands, furthering my resolve to stick with iPhone for now. Had a Samsung Gear, the wristband one. That's the one that made me swear off Samsung. I work with a variety of Android phones every day. Though I can see reasons one might want something from that platform, I'm still sticking to my iPhone.

What you choose to label as ignorance others might call "making the choice that suits my needs". I mean, I don't even have cable/satellite TV and I've seen a Samsung ad. I can't imagine your average consumer has no idea of other offerings.

Re:Milking the iPhone by jsjohnst on Wednesday December 07, 2016 @01:57AM (#13120965)
Apple didn't invent the smartphone either. Smartphones existed for years before, Apple arguably just was the first to make something that the "masses" would want to use.

Same thing will likely apply here too.

Re:Milking the iPhone by coldtea on Wednesday December 07, 2016 @02:02AM (#13120994)
>The Gear S3 Frontier manages mobile connectivity and superior UX with a supposed 4. Day battery life

The 4 day battery life (closer to 3 in practice) just about sums its benefits over the Apple Watch. Less features and not as well made, less applications available, and stuck with Tizen. Not so great connectivity options either.

As for the condescending "they don't know about other brands", well, I've followed Tizen development since forever, with Rasterman involved in it et all.