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Re:Apple to Start Publishing AI Research by deelowe on Tuesday December 06, 2016 @03:19PM (#13117929)
And of course, Microsoft has been in business 41 years where as Google has been 18. I'm guessing publication rates between the two are comparable. I wouldn't be surprised if IBM were similar. All three are highly committed to research.
Re:Apple to Start Publishing AI Research by Cyph0n on Tuesday December 06, 2016 @03:25PM (#13117979)
Regardless, comparing the number of papers is meaningless. A better metric is comparing how many significant advances resulted from research funded by the company.

Using the second metric, the winner in all cases - without negotiation - would be AT&T Bell Labs.

Re:Apple to Start Publishing AI Research by guelo on Tuesday December 06, 2016 @09:11PM (#13119959)
Perhaps we could develop an algorithm that uses the number of citations from other papers to rank the importance of each paper, a "PageRank" if you will.
Re:Apple to Start Publishing AI Research by reachtarunhere on Tuesday December 06, 2016 @09:33PM (#13120040)
There is something similar for ranking people. H-Index. Given the list of people in each lab it might be possible to quantify the output of a group using that.
Re:Apple to Start Publishing AI Research by hashhar on Wednesday December 07, 2016 @07:44AM (#13122119)
Funny how I'm working on exactly that for my major project in Bachelors next semester. I don't have it figured out but it's a problem I'd like to solve.
Re:Apple to Start Publishing AI Research by abritinthebay on Tuesday December 06, 2016 @03:55PM (#13118255)
True, tho Xerox has to be up there as well.
Re:Apple to Start Publishing AI Research by serge2k on Tuesday December 06, 2016 @04:57PM (#13118684)
Nah, the transistor is more groundbreaking than anything xerox did.
Re:Apple to Start Publishing AI Research by Cyph0n on Tuesday December 06, 2016 @06:31PM (#13119217)
What's even more amazing is how they followed up with the invention of solar cells, CCD for digital cameras, the MOSFET, etc. So not only did they invent the base (transistor), but they continued to make more inventions using it.
Re:Apple to Start Publishing AI Research by aylons on Tuesday December 06, 2016 @06:28PM (#13119191)
The transistor is more groundbreaking than most developments in the 20th century, combined.
Re:Apple to Start Publishing AI Research by sangnoir on Wednesday December 07, 2016 @07:46AM (#13122129)
More groundbreaking than other developments singly - probabably; combined? not a chance. Other 20th century developments include flight, rocketry, the United Nations, quantum physics, splitting the atom, the M.A.D. principle, assembly line production, robotics, analog computers (including those used for AA targeting systems in WWII, predating the transistor), among many, many others.
Re:Apple to Start Publishing AI Research by abritinthebay on Tuesday December 06, 2016 @10:36PM (#13120273)
Sure, I said up there - not better than.
Re:Apple to Start Publishing AI Research by deelowe on Tuesday December 06, 2016 @10:49PM (#13120330)
Shame what happened to that company... :-( I have family who worked there during the hay days.
Re:Apple to Start Publishing AI Research by ghaff on Tuesday December 06, 2016 @11:35PM (#13120499)
It's easy to romanticize the old Ma Bell especially given the fantastic work done by Bell Labs.

I'd also remind you of the cost of a telephone system with monopoly status that didn't even let you install your own phones in the house for a long time. And which led too skits like Lily Tomlin's "We don't care. We don't have to. We're the phone company."

Re:Apple to Start Publishing AI Research by deelowe on Wednesday December 07, 2016 @01:24AM (#13120857)
I can't romanticize about bell labs simply because the rest of the company had shady business practices? Huh?
Re:Apple to Start Publishing AI Research by ghaff on Thursday December 08, 2016 @11:17PM (#13136632)
Bell Labs was able to exist in large part because AT&T was a quasi-government regulated monopoly. You couldn't really have one without the other. (And I'm not sure I'd even say at&t had shady business practices. But they were a de facto monopoly.)
Re:Apple to Start Publishing AI Research by socmag on Wednesday December 07, 2016 @03:31AM (#13121265)
I think the point was to romanticize but temper it with balance.
Re:Apple to Start Publishing AI Research by adenadel on Tuesday December 06, 2016 @03:29PM (#13118014)
I have no skin in the game in regards to who produces more research. I was just trying to give some data. Also, Microsoft Research has been around since 1991.