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Re:The State of European Tech 2016 by cyberpunk on Sunday December 04, 2016 @09:01PM (#13102921)
I worked in NL a few years ago and the corp culture there was good generally. I'll never acknowledge frikandellen as fit for human consumption however..

I'm not sure about the money argument still though -- a joke? How much more money do you think your avg dev is getting paid in the US vs what we get here in Europe? A regular employee/salaried dev is looking at at least 90k euro/year in nl, which is a very very comfortable living before bonus/benefits and NL also has the 13'th month thing which allows for easy laptop buying every year... Senior/Lead folks are looking at more plus options and whatever..

It's obviously a hard thing to measure, but I think the quality of life argument for your typical european is somewhat higher than your generic american worker (25 days holiday, employee-biased employment laws, various lifestyle protections (e.g in holland if you're a fully 'paid up' taxpayer and you lose your job then the govt will give you some 75% of your last salary while you find another role)).

I guess there's no way to really compare all these things, there are too many other factors -- I'm really curious on how much more money you're talking about here though...

Re:The State of European Tech 2016 by cplanas on Monday December 05, 2016 @03:32AM (#13104134)
> A regular employee/salaried dev is looking at at least 90k euro/year in nl

According Payscale, the average salary for a developer in Netherlands is 41k Euro/Year (http://www.payscale.com/research/NL/Job=Software_Engineer/Sa...), and in Amsterdam, the capital, 53k (http://www.payscale.com/research/NL/Job=Senior_Software_Engi...).

In Copenhagen and Barcelona (the two Euro cities where I have worked) 90k is totally off the market.

Re:The State of European Tech 2016 by falsedan on Monday December 05, 2016 @02:09AM (#13103862)
What company in NL pays 90k for new grads?
Re:The State of European Tech 2016 by passiveincomelg on Monday December 05, 2016 @03:23AM (#13104108)
or senior devs
Re:The State of European Tech 2016 by hocuspocus on Monday December 05, 2016 @12:38PM (#13107320)
90k is attainable at Booking.com for a senior dev, but you have to be into Perl :) And I imagine that your total comp is pretty big at Uber too (at least on paper). Clearly not the norm in NL though.

It might be easier in hardware, I don't know how well ASML pays.

Re:The State of European Tech 2016 by passiveincomelg on Monday December 05, 2016 @01:15PM (#13107720)
Not really into Perl or into moving anywhere, but good to know. :)