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Re:Uber Now Tracks Passengers’ Locations Even After They’re ... by mortenjorck on Friday December 02, 2016 @12:16AM (#13086229)
There's a simple way to send a message: Set the location services setting to "Never" and just enter addresses for now (copy and paste from Maps if it's easier).

The important thing is that their analytics will pick this up, and if enough users do it, hopefully point toward re-enabling "While using."

Re:Uber Now Tracks Passengers’ Locations Even After They’re ... by walterbell on Friday December 02, 2016 @12:27AM (#13086265)
Or don't accept this app update. If/when Uber stops the current app version (with 3 privacy settings) from working with their server API, switch from Uber to a competitor.

Apple can also change their policy for ride-sharing apps, to force "While Using" as an option, or block Uber's update from the App Store.

Remember that it was only after apps abused the contact database, that permissions were added by Apple to give users control over apps. Apple can step up now and define a new policy that responds to these new abuses of user choice, within the ride-sharing app category.

This is one of the few benefits of Apple's walled garden review of apps. Perhaps we will eventually thank Uber for pushing the boundaries of etiquette, forcing Apple to regulate Uber and their peers.

Re:Uber Now Tracks Passengers’ Locations Even After They’re ... by gchokov on Friday December 02, 2016 @12:43AM (#13086331)
How can you not accept the update, when they do not even write release notes?
Re:Uber Now Tracks Passengers’ Locations Even After They’re ... by walterbell on Friday December 02, 2016 @01:31AM (#13086568)
I've learned the hard way to time-delay app updates from over-reaching companies. A week or two is usually sufficient for major issues to surface on HN.

You're right - it would be better if Apple allowed users to rollback to the N-1 version of an app. That would send a real-time signal from users to app vendors, rather than slow complaints via press and social media.

Re:Uber Now Tracks Passengers’ Locations Even After They’re ... by newscracker on Friday December 02, 2016 @04:36AM (#13087304)
> it would be better if Apple allowed users to rollback to the N-1 version of an app.

Apple should allow users to revert to any older version. There are so many apps that become worse over time, and it's only after an update that the shortcomings are found, with no way to remedy the situation. But Apple really doesn't care about such things on the user experience front. I have provided Apple feedback on this before.

The thing I like in this case is that iOS explicitly warns the user when an app requests for location services permission for use while the app is not running.

Re:Uber Now Tracks Passengers’ Locations Even After They’re ... by mi100hael on Friday December 02, 2016 @11:40AM (#13090050)
It's just another reminder that iOS is a walled garden in which you have no freedom.
Re:Uber Now Tracks Passengers’ Locations Even After They’re ... by kevinchen on Friday December 02, 2016 @02:13AM (#13086754)
You can also continue to call Uber rides with location using Apple Maps, even if you don't give the Uber app location permission.
Re:Uber Now Tracks Passengers’ Locations Even After They’re ... by whatgoodisaroad on Friday December 02, 2016 @01:15AM (#13086487)
You can also just switch it back to "Never" when you're done with your trip.
Re:Uber Now Tracks Passengers’ Locations Even After They’re ... by r00fus on Friday December 02, 2016 @02:24AM (#13086798)
Yeah, that's a dark pattern. It should default to not tracking me after the ride is done.
Re:Uber Now Tracks Passengers’ Locations Even After They’re ... by davidu on Friday December 02, 2016 @01:36AM (#13086595)
This is totally impractical.
Re:Uber Now Tracks Passengers’ Locations Even After They’re ... by StanislavPetrov on Friday December 02, 2016 @02:11AM (#13086751)
Put your phone in a Faraday cage for a few minutes after you get out of an Uber. Cases cost less then $10 on Amazon.
Re:Uber Now Tracks Passengers’ Locations Even After They’re ... by newscracker on Friday December 02, 2016 @06:03AM (#13087669)
And risk being out of reach for everyone else too for that duration? And what if the person forgets to take it out of the case after the five or so minutes? I believe this will cause a lot of panic among people who're trying to reach the Uber rider, especially if the rider is a woman. There have been instances of assault and worse by drivers in some places.
Re:Uber Now Tracks Passengers’ Locations Even After They’re ... by whatgoodisaroad on Friday December 02, 2016 @01:55AM (#13086695)
Maybe it isn't practical, but at least it's what I did today.