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Re:Amazon Worker Jumps Off Company Building After E-Mail to ... by gaius on Tuesday November 29, 2016 @03:36AM (#13061709)
SDE3? Isn't that a semi-mythical level with just a handful of people? I suspect your experience is atypical.
Re:Amazon Worker Jumps Off Company Building After E-Mail to ... by jsolson on Tuesday November 29, 2016 @05:20AM (#13062130)
Not really.

Principal, maybe, but SDE3 is a position you can be easily hired into with enough experience. As a promo it's a bitch, though, and absolutely not worth it. Jump ships for something level equivalent at a company with better comp and get promoted there.

I say this having stuck it out at Amazon for SDE3 before jumping ship. My only regret is that I stayed too long.

Re:Amazon Worker Jumps Off Company Building After E-Mail to ... by uw_rob on Tuesday November 29, 2016 @09:09AM (#13063088)
How long did you stay at Amazon? Did you start as a SDE1?
Re:Amazon Worker Jumps Off Company Building After E-Mail to ... by jsolson on Tuesday November 29, 2016 @02:38PM (#13065631)
I should really find a better way to phrase that comment. I wasn't actually there for that long (a bit over two years), but I still regret not leaving sooner. I was hired in as an SDE2, which at the time was probably the right level due to lack of experience with large companies, but I outgrew it pretty quickly. The SDE3 promo process involved a staggering amount of hoop jumping specifically so my manager could put together my packet. My manager was fairly transparent about the checklist nature of the process, but it clearly involved an even more staggering amount of work for him preparing a packet for me.

When I say I should've left sooner it's because for all the effort put into it I ended up taking a substantial pay raise and a level drop when I finally did leave five months later (and went through a much lighter weight promo process shortly after joining my new gig that I would've been able to pursue regardless). It's possible the promo put me in a better negotiating position, but given that I didn't disclose my current compensation during negotiation I can't say that with any confidence.

Re:Amazon Worker Jumps Off Company Building After E-Mail to ... by rifung on Tuesday November 29, 2016 @04:24AM (#13061893)
From what I remember almost everyone will get promoted from SDE1 to SDE2 in around ~2 years. Getting promoted to SDE3 is not as easy but it's not really that rare either. It'd be really bizarre for almost everyone to be stuck at SDE2 considering how easy it is to get there.