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Re:China’s New Tool for Social Control: A Credit Rating for ... by Animats on Monday November 28, 2016 @05:05PM (#13058827)
China has had similar systems for decades. The dang’an record books on employee behavior were kept by big state employers. But that system didn't hold up well as more private employers appeared. Now it's being brought up to date.

The US has something like this for travel, where the lowest tier is being on the "do not fly" list, and having a Global Entry card, which requires "extreme vetting", moves you to a higher tier where you can bypass some security lines.

Re:China’s New Tool for Social Control: A Credit Rating for ... by hackuser on Monday November 28, 2016 @06:37PM (#13059366)
> China has had similar systems for decades. The dang’an record books on employee behavior ...

Under the Communists China also has had (and maybe still does?) city block-level surveillance by neighbors of residential behavior.

> The US has something like this ...

The false equivalency comes up too much. I wrote some code in a couple hours the other day that is "something like" the Linux kernel, in that they are both code, both read from the network and output to the monitor, and both have bugs which will never be fixed. But if I want to communicate to others an accurate comparison of the two code bases, mentioning those similarities is misleading.

Re:China’s New Tool for Social Control: A Credit Rating for ... by seanmcdirmid on Monday November 28, 2016 @07:39PM (#13059746)
Communist China still has residential officers, but only in older complexes (I don't think we had one in my newish complex, but I definitely heard about them in more traditional Beijing apartment complexes).
Re:China’s New Tool for Social Control: A Credit Rating for ... by mattnewton on Monday November 28, 2016 @05:55PM (#13059160)
I think what people have to watch closely is the collation of these different lists. The American do-not-fly list already is full of mistakes[0][1][2] and institutionalized prejudice[3][4], and so if that score affected more it would damage even more.

[0] http://www.cnn.com/2015/12/07/politics/no-fly-mistakes-cat-s...

[1] http://theresurgent.com/these-people-mistakenly-ending-up-on...

[2] https://theintercept.com/2016/04/06/class-action-suit-target...

[3] https://ccrjustice.org/home/get-involved/tools-resources/fac...

[4] https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2015/dec/22/us-stops-bri...

Re:China’s New Tool for Social Control: A Credit Rating for ... by r00fus on Monday November 28, 2016 @06:33PM (#13059353)
The fact that the no-fly list can be manipulated without visibility is exactly why it's so useful to authoritarian regimes like China's communist party and the US security-state.
Re:China’s New Tool for Social Control: A Credit Rating for ... by seanmcdirmid on Monday November 28, 2016 @07:37PM (#13059736)
Can declaring bankruptcy in the USA really get me put on the "do not fly" list?

Well then, I guess it is all the same.

Re:China’s New Tool for Social Control: A Credit Rating for ... by imagetcha on Tuesday November 29, 2016 @01:56AM (#13061378)
What in the world does filing bankruptcy have to do with flying on an airplane?

I thought being on 'do not fly' lists came about because of one doing something that could be construed as anti-security, er...like terroristic in nature. I'm so confused with how some people commenting in these threads come up with off the wall, random and unrelated associations lol. It's exasperating to say the least.

Re:China’s New Tool for Social Control: A Credit Rating for ... by seanmcdirmid on Tuesday November 29, 2016 @09:02AM (#13063056)
Yep, you get it. That would not happen in the USA, but has already happened in china.
Re:China’s New Tool for Social Control: A Credit Rating for ... by sithadmin on Monday November 28, 2016 @05:18PM (#13058904)
Global Entry doesn't entitle you to 'skipping' any security lines. It accelerates the customs process, but one still ends up handing one's documents over to customs officers for a (usually) quick review, just as everyone else does.

The biggest perk for Global Entry (besides getting a known traveler number for Pre-Check eligibility) is that the process of filling out the customs paperwork is faster and more automated, and that the ratio of travelers : customs officers is lower.

Re:China’s New Tool for Social Control: A Credit Rating for ... by maxerickson on Monday November 28, 2016 @05:22PM (#13058941)
Getting to use a line with a lower ratio of travelers to customs officers is exactly what someone means when they talk about skipping a line. If they meant skipping the customs checks they probably would have said checks rather than line.
Re:China’s New Tool for Social Control: A Credit Rating for ... by thewhitetulip on Tuesday November 29, 2016 @12:26AM (#13061043)
"do not fly" list is not the same as keeping a social credit score. You don't get on the do not flying list if you speak against the US president's policies. That's the difference between democracy and the other thing (not really sure what category China falls these days)