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Re:Don't Lower Corporate Taxes, Abolish Them by ethbro on Saturday November 26, 2016 @12:47PM (#13044893)
Bargain:

- Abolish corporate taxes

- Increase minimum wage (including an automatic inflation adjustment)

- Increase estate taxes and private corporate transfer taxes (intergenerational)

- Heavily tax (90%) all corporate spending in politics, using revenues to fund educational news sources

Everybody gets something that they want.

Re:Don't Lower Corporate Taxes, Abolish Them by darpa_escapee on Saturday November 26, 2016 @01:15PM (#13045059)
The last three are already being attacked on separate fronts, a compromise would be hard to make. My state just eliminated its estate tax and Republicans have been clamoring to attack it at the federal level as well.
Re:Don't Lower Corporate Taxes, Abolish Them by vacri on Saturday November 26, 2016 @01:38PM (#13045187)
It's weird how much the Republican side of politics is against the estate tax, given the high level of 'founding fathers desire!' rhetoric coming from that side. The estate tax was put in place for a philosophical reason, not a revenue-raising one, so it is part of the mosaic of the 'ff desires'...
Re:Don't Lower Corporate Taxes, Abolish Them by douche on Saturday November 26, 2016 @01:21PM (#13045094)
Estate taxes are evil. It's money that has already been taxed at least once as income or capital gains.
Re:Don't Lower Corporate Taxes, Abolish Them by barrkel on Saturday November 26, 2016 @01:56PM (#13045280)
Estate taxes are one of the least evil taxes; they are inherently more fair, because they reduce unearned income.
Re:Don't Lower Corporate Taxes, Abolish Them by douche on Saturday November 26, 2016 @02:17PM (#13045380)
If the idea of having part of your hard-earned wealth confiscated rather than passed on to your children doesn't boil your blood, you're made of different stuff than I am.
Re:Don't Lower Corporate Taxes, Abolish Them by ethbro on Saturday November 26, 2016 @03:34PM (#13045700)
I am made of different stuff than you are.

From experience, passing substantial unconditional wealth to my children (above and beyond education) seems far more likely to turn them into assholes than decent citizens.

Re:Don't Lower Corporate Taxes, Abolish Them by douche on Saturday November 26, 2016 @11:32PM (#13047724)
I'm always amazed at the distaste that the idea of generational wealth receives here. For me, it is the foundation stone of my well-being. My great-grandparents scrimped and saved in the depression, and passed on a small nest-egg to my grandparents. They scrimped and saved and passed on a slightly larger nest egg on to my parents. My parents lived and raised me in many years of poverty, saving what they could, and then inherited the wealth of generations. I expect that I will inherit that nucleus of the family's fortune in due time, and will do my utmost to husband it and grow it in trust for my descendants.

Whatever I achieve in this life is not my own, it is the culmination of the efforts of all the generations that put me in position to do what I do, and a legacy to leave to all the future generations of my family.

Re:Don't Lower Corporate Taxes, Abolish Them by prostoalex on Sunday November 27, 2016 @12:21AM (#13047863)
At micro-economic level this makes sense, at macro-economic level it reduces economic mobility. In countries with no artificial taxes on generational wealth the richest families of 2016 are likely to be largely the same as richest families of 1916 and richest families of 1816.

As their wealth is typically preserved via real estate and land ownership, there's a politicial motive to decrease the cost of that, so economies also suffer from high barriers to entry and need to inflate taxes on something else to pay for the government services.

Repealing estate tax would work when combined with higher property tax rates or land value tax, but is rarely politically doable, as well-connected political families and large landowners tend to be the same families.

Re:Don't Lower Corporate Taxes, Abolish Them by usrusr on Sunday November 27, 2016 @05:06AM (#13048528)
I value the spirit of passing something on, but I despise the inequality that emerges from repeated iteration.

The value lies in long term thinking, sustainability. A farmer can either maintain the soil, carefully rotating crops so that it will be able to feed future generations as good or better than his predecessors, or he can go for the agricultural equivalent of strip mining and move on to the next plot when the previous one is depleted.

But when you replace the soil with fungible assets, all that long term thinking benefit goes out the window. Sticking to the farming example, repeated slash and burn farming will only encourage more of the same, as long as there is something left to burn. Larger operators will grow faster than smaller ones, and after a few generations, when there is nothing left to burn, the descendants of those who burnt the most will employ the losers to tend the desert.

Re:Don't Lower Corporate Taxes, Abolish Them by Avshalom on Saturday November 26, 2016 @01:33PM (#13045159)
>taxed at least once as income or capital gains

for some one who is now dead and thus very very unlikely to give a shit.

Re:Don't Lower Corporate Taxes, Abolish Them by vacri on Saturday November 26, 2016 @01:40PM (#13045205)
The same can be said of any tax on individuals (sales tax, rates, etc), given that income tax has already been paid.
Re:Don't Lower Corporate Taxes, Abolish Them by notahacker on Saturday November 26, 2016 @02:36PM (#13045460)
The same can be said of any tax, period, corporation tax included. Money that some person or corporate entity has paid tax on gets taxed again at or after the point it changes hands; estate tax is no different in that respect,