Re:Finland set to become first country to ban coal use for e...
by dminor on Friday November 25, 2016 @11:43AM
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> once sourced and delivered to a power plant ready to burn
This is the reason "clean coal" is an oxymoron - burn it as clean as you want, but enormous environmental damage has already been done to get it out of the ground.
Re:Finland set to become first country to ban coal use for e...
by lostlogin on Friday November 25, 2016 @11:54AM
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My grandfather remembers 'clean coal' being pushed in Scotland 70 years ago. Basically they washed the coal with vast amounts of water. Then at night they pumped the very dirty water into local streams.
Re:Finland set to become first country to ban coal use for e...
by Drdrdrq on Friday November 25, 2016 @12:40PM
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Methods change, path stays the same.
Re:Finland set to become first country to ban coal use for e...
by tptacek on Friday November 25, 2016 @12:45PM
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Hundreds of peoples lives are saved from PM10 toxicity, &c &c.
Re:Finland set to become first country to ban coal use for e...
by notgood on Saturday November 26, 2016 @01:25AM
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Would have saved a lot more if they had never use coal tho.
Re:Finland set to become first country to ban coal use for e...
by tptacek on Friday November 25, 2016 @11:52AM
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No, it's a reason why "clean coal" doesn't fully address the environmental problems of coal. Perhaps you'd prefer the (unassailable) term "cleaner coal".
Re:Finland set to become first country to ban coal use for e...
by notgood on Saturday November 26, 2016 @01:30AM
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If "clean coal" is the right term for coal that is not as toxic in one of the steps of using it, then we may call "good hitman" to the ones who don't kill children nor woman; or we may call "positive genocide" the massive killing of only convicted criminals.
1. Coal burning power plants produce particulate pollution that directly impacts human health. Modern coal plants pre-treat fuel to minimize pollutants and filter output to remove them from their emissions. The stack of technologies that does this is most of what the industry is referring to when they talk about "clean coal", and it does appear to work.
2. Burning coal releases large amounts of CO2 and contributes to global warming --- about a quarter of the US carbon footprint comes from coal. Supporters of "clean coal" allude to carbon capture and sequestration technology, but it's unclear how effective it is and unclear how widely deployed it will be.
My understanding is that it's reasonable to be skeptical of clean coal as an answer to (2), but not as much for (1). Problem (1) is enormously important: hundreds of people die every year because of PM10 pollution from dirty coal plants. So it's probably best not to adopt the rhetoric that "clean coal" is somehow fake.