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Re:What happens to water if it’s not allowed to expand when ... by pbz on Wednesday April 28, 2010 @09:50PM (#1303335)
If you put it in container that it can't possibly break, will it not freeze completely?
Re:What happens to water if it’s not allowed to expand when ... by flatline on Wednesday April 28, 2010 @10:47PM (#1303434)
I understood that it would indeed freeze completely - it would just have a different crystalline structure than regular ice that freezes at room temperature. Some of the molecular configurations result in higher density than liquid water, so it would actually contract rather than expand in those instances.
Re:What happens to water if it’s not allowed to expand when ... by ElbertF on Wednesday April 28, 2010 @11:09PM (#1303475)
You can try this at home with a bottle of beer. Put it in the freezer, forget about it (happens to me all the time) and open it. It freezes instantly.
Re:What happens to water if it’s not allowed to expand when ... by ynniv on Wednesday April 28, 2010 @11:37PM (#1303508)
This has to do with dissolved gasses which escape on opening changing the freezing point, not the inability of water to destroy an aluminum can. Freezing water fractures solid rock, creates pot holes in roads, and has no problem breaking a thin aluminum shell.
Re:What happens to water if it’s not allowed to expand when ... by ElbertF on Thursday April 29, 2010 @12:15AM (#1303563)
Interesting, thanks. That won't stop me from putting beer in the freezer though.
Re:What happens to water if it’s not allowed to expand when ... by yread on Thursday April 29, 2010 @01:59AM (#1303702)
Gp ahead, just don't do it with beer bottles. It takes quite an effort to remove all the little shards of broken glass and the fridge smells like beer :)
Re:What happens to water if it’s not allowed to expand when ... by ElbertF on Thursday April 29, 2010 @02:11AM (#1303723)
I've never had that happen, but wouldn't the cap come off first?
Re:What happens to water if it’s not allowed to expand when ... by Deestan on Thursday April 29, 2010 @02:24AM (#1303746)
Apparently not; I've had a bottle of soda 'sploding in my freezer. I'm guessing that since the bottle's neck is so slim the water there freezes first, effectively "plugging" the bottle.
Re:What happens to water if it’s not allowed to expand when ... by ajj on Wednesday April 28, 2010 @10:42PM (#1303428)
I think that is right, since the freezing points / boiling points are also influenced by pressure. So when it tries to expand and cannot expand due to an unbreakable container, the pressure increasing substantially, and the respective points also change.

I'm sure if you try to boil water to steam, and keep it in a container that cannot expand, it won't convert completely to steam, since pressure increases its boiling point. With the conversion to ice, I am not exactly sure (something similar happens possibly) just because it is a little atypical in terms of volumes and liquid / solid states. Also, too tired to look this up :)

Re:What happens to water if it’s not allowed to expand when ... by billswift on Thursday April 29, 2010 @03:56AM (#1303866)
If you keep increasing the temperature it will eventually all turn to steam, at an extremely high pressure.